cody_kowalski Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 When it comes to the ned rig do you have to have a mushroom jig head or can you use a round jig head as long as the eye where you tie the line is on top? Quote
Russ E Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 you can use a round head , but the small mushroom head does not snag into crevices as often. One of the problems a lot of people have with the ned rig is using a jig that is too heavy. I personally use the shroomz 1/15 ounce 99 percent of the time. If fishing extremely shallow I will use 1/20 ounce. 4 Quote
cody_kowalski Posted June 29, 2019 Author Posted June 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Russ E said: you can use a round head , but the small mushroom head does not snag into crevices as often. One of the problems a lot of people have with the ned rig is using a jig that is too heavy. I personally use the shroomz 1/15 ounce 99 percent of the time. If fishing extremely shallow I will use 1/20 ounce. So 1/8 ounce is out of the picture? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted June 29, 2019 Super User Posted June 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, cody_kowalski said: So 1/8 ounce is out of the picture? No, you can use 1/8 if you want to. Ned prefers using lighter jigs, and many will say the rig works best going lighter...but they make 1/8 and it's usable. I have used it, but prefer to go a little lighter unless really windy. @Team9nine can offer a lot of insight on Ned rigging. 2 Quote
Russ E Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, cody_kowalski said: So 1/8 ounce is out of the picture? if you are fishing deeper than 10 foot 1/8 ounce will work fine. Shallower than that and it will snag a lot more than the lighter heads. Try it. If you snag a lot go to a lighter head. 2 Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 I fish 1/10 and it seems pretty versatile for all depths of water. The Ned is definitely not my favorite way to fish, as I dislike spinning gear, but it will catch fish when nothing else will. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted June 29, 2019 Super User Posted June 29, 2019 I have tried several shapes and found the mushroom head to be the most trouble free. I make my own and have several sizes but rarely fish heavier than 3/32 with 1/6 being my go to. Quote
Glaucus Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 The mushroom head does better at avoiding snags, especially in the rocks, and it allows the TRD to stand up when touching bottom. Using a round head is like using a cut up stick bait for the plastic; it will work, but it won't be nearly as good. I personally only use the 1/10oz heads at the moment because that's the lightest Z-Man mushroom head with a weedguard. I fish them in rivers for smallmouth and these rivers have a rock and sand bottom. If I don't have the guards they snag almost every cast, with the guards I hardly snag at all. The ponds I fish are too weedy for the Ned Rig and I don't visit the lakes frequently enough. Hopefully Z-Man will make the weedless version in 1/15oz. Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted June 29, 2019 Super User Posted June 29, 2019 I pour my own heads with 1/16 being my favorite. I use two strands of fiber weedguard and it works amazingly well. Friend who is a machinist made the mold so I was very fortunate. But now he moved so I have to drive 50 miles to borrow it and make some more!! 1 Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted June 29, 2019 Super User Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Oregon Native said: I pour my own heads with 1/16 being my favorite. I use two strands of fiber weedguard and it works amazingly well. Friend who is a machinist made the mold so I was very fortunate. But now he moved so I have to drive 50 miles to borrow it and make some more!! Barlow’s has the Midwest Finesse jig mold. That is what I bought. Quote
frogflogger Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Glaucus said: The mushroom head does better at avoiding snags, especially in the rocks, and it allows the TRD to stand up when touching bottom. Using a round head is like using a cut up stick bait for the plastic; it will work, but it won't be nearly as good. I personally only use the 1/10oz heads at the moment because that's the lightest Z-Man mushroom head with a weedguard. I fish them in rivers for smallmouth and these rivers have a rock and sand bottom. If I don't have the guards they snag almost every cast, with the guards I hardly snag at all. The ponds I fish are too weedy for the Ned Rig and I don't visit the lakes frequently enough. Hopefully Z-Man will make the weedless version in 1/15oz. I fish a rocky smallmouth river and usually find a 1/32 mushroom head very effective and snags seldom I drift them like I would a streamer when fly fishing. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted June 29, 2019 Super User Posted June 29, 2019 I Texas Rig a #1 Neko hook in my Ned’s and push a 1/16 oz nail weight in the fat end. Most snagless way I’ve fished it. I use a VMC Neko hook for this and the hook up ratio seems as good as an open hook for me. Sticky sharp, but no/few snags... 1 Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted June 30, 2019 Super User Posted June 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Jig Man said: Barlow’s has the Midwest Finesse jig mold. That is what I bought. Like the mold but hard to put a fiber weedguard in. Quote
PourMyOwn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 For those of you who have the mold and like the light heads, pour them with bismuth. The bismuth/tin mix is lighter than lead, which falls even slower. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted June 30, 2019 Super User Posted June 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said: For those of you who have the mold and like the light heads, pour them with bismuth. The bismuth/tin mix is lighter than lead, which falls even slower. I use lead that contains antimony. That makes it lighter. I might consider your idea if I ever run out of lead but I have oner 100 # right now. Quote
PourMyOwn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jig Man said: I use lead that contains antimony. That makes it lighter. I might consider your idea if I ever run out of lead but I have oner 100 # right now. Sounds good-I live in a lead free state or I'd still be working from my pile of lead too. Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted June 30, 2019 Super User Posted June 30, 2019 I would use a round head jig in a pinch but I prefer the mushroom head ones. They help the bait sit straight up on the bottom when dead sticking. I have been using Berkley halfhead jigs lately. Cheaper than Z-Man and the TRD actually stay on the jig with no glue. Quote
Topwaterdog Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I use the mushroom heads, 1/10th is my favorite. Lifted jigs is making an EWG ned jig that I just picked up. Yet to fish it but it seems like a good idea. Quote
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