Daiwa Torx Screwdrivers

[fin]

8 hours ago, WRB said:

Usually any assembly like a fishing reel requiring special tool the tool is supplied.

Tom

 

I suspect the reason for their use is to prevent customers from servicing their reels. I don't believe they are used because of their 'superior' design. The screw used on the bail arm lever is one of those common/phillips screws, where you can use either type of screwdriver. They should use the same type of screws throughout and use the same size wherever possible to reduce the amount of tools required.

 

I guess these manufacturers think customers are going to send their reels to an authorized repair facility to have them oiled? Or do they think a reel can go a year without being serviced? I wonder what goes on in the heads of some of these decision-makers.

 

5 hours ago, waymont said:

It’s not a special tool.

It's special in my shop.

 

2 hours ago, JustJames said:

I think Okuma also use torx screw with their spinning reels.

I know they do on some at least, because I was interested in one of their reels until I noticed it had torx.

 

8 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I have a set. I’ll look at them and see if I remember which one. 

Thanks. There are several sizes used on the outside, I don't know about the inside. I kind of doubt they are used inside.

[VolFan]

I just bought 10 $5 boxes of screws to fix a fence with. Each box had a Torx head in it to fit the screws. You would think Daiwa could throw one in on a reel.

[fishwizzard]

It shocks me that there are people out there who don’t get excited about the opportunity to buy a new set of drivers.   

 

 

 

 

[JustJames]

My wife for one wouldn’t be so happy if I said I need a new set of tool.

[Fishes in trees]

Interesting discussion on torx fasteners.  I haven't noticed that torx heads are especially common- but I haven't noticed that they are that uncommon either.  I think the it is a good idea to carry driver heads to cover any situation.  I do.  One set in the garage, another in the fishing shed, another one either in the fishing truck tool box or the boat tool box.  And even then I've had issues finding the correct tool from time to time.

 

I think that tool collections are kind of like Pokemon, in that "you've got to get them all". More often than not, the tool you don't have is the one that you need.   This could be why they are always nice to me when I wander into Harbor Freight.

[GReb]

Torx is fairly popular in electronics. A lot of decking screws are torx now too. I actually like them better than Phillips. They grip the head much better and are harder to strip. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

On 6/28/2019 at 5:31 AM, fin said:

 

I suspect the reason for their use is to prevent customers from servicing their reels. I don't believe they are used because of their 'superior' design. The screw used on the bail arm lever is one of those common/phillips screws, where you can use either type of screwdriver. They should use the same type of screws throughout and use the same size wherever possible to reduce the amount of tools required.

 

I guess these manufacturers think customers are going to send their reels to an authorized repair facility to have them oiled? Or do they think a reel can go a year without being serviced? I wonder what goes on in the heads of some of these decision-makers.

 

It's special in my shop.

 

I know they do on some at least, because I was interested in one of their reels until I noticed it had torx.

 

Thanks. There are several sizes used on the outside, I don't know about the inside. I kind of doubt they are used inside.

I have a set of T5-T10. I want to say the 8 and 10 but The whole set was inexpensive. 

[jimmyjoe]

   I worked in appliance repair for 38 years, and from about '90 or '95, Torx was ubiquitous. I've worn out several sets, T-10 to T-25, plus some smarmy brand-unique sizes.  If you would have told me that there were people and places here in the U.S. that weren't familiar with Torx,  I wouldn't have believed you.

   The brand-unique sizes were considered "special", and were sourced from that brand. The standard sizes weren't considered special at all.

   So .... I guess I got educated, didn't I?     jj

[fin]

4 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

   I worked in appliance repair for 38 years, and from about '90 or '95, Torx was ubiquitous. I've worn out several sets, T-10 to T-25, plus some smarmy brand-unique sizes.  If you would have told me that there were people and places here in the U.S. that weren't familiar with Torx,  I wouldn't have believed you.

   The brand-unique sizes were considered "special", and were sourced from that brand. The standard sizes weren't considered special at all.

   So .... I guess I got educated, didn't I?     jj

I guess it depends on your definition of 'special'. I couldn't say what percentage of mechanics have a full set (24?) of torx, but I think it's safe to say that most households don't have a set of torx.

 

Most households do have a phillips and a flathead screwdriver. Most households don't have a set of hex keys, but more households have hex keys than torx drivers.

 

I think we all could agree on that much.

[Shimano_1]

I shoot pse bows and went through this same train of thought when they started using torx heads. I bought a set of bits and have actually used them on a lot of things since. Just buy a cheap set and be done with it. If the only complaint I had about a reel was the type of screw head I'd consider it a good buy.

[JustJames]

@finI agreed

The last time I use star bit (torx) when built my work bench with 4x4, since then every time I shop for 2.5” and up screw, it has to be star drive screw.

The one that I’d call special, is torx bit (security) with hole in it, where used a lot in appliances.

 

[fin]

3 hours ago, Shimano_1 said:

If the only complaint I had about a reel was the type of screw head I'd consider it a good buy.

There are plenty of good reels in that price range that I wouldn't have to buy a set of drivers for. It increases the price of the reel in my case.

 

3 hours ago, Shimano_1 said:

Just buy a cheap set and be done with it.

That's what I plan to do. I like the reel so far. There was an older thread about Daiwa using soft metal screws where people were saying you need to use quality drivers. Nobody has voiced that concern in this thread, so I feel a little better about buying a cheap set.

 

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/211806-screwdrivers-for-reel-maintenance/

 

[Crow Horse]

And now to add to the confusion, is Torx Plus....

 

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[dodgeguy]

On 6/28/2019 at 6:28 AM, VolFan said:

I just bought 10 $5 boxes of screws to fix a fence with. Each box had a Torx head in it to fit the screws. You would think Daiwa could throw one in on a reel.

That would cost you an extra $50.