Marc Tyler Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I've always liked the build quality and overall performance of shimano baitcasters. I've been looking at daiwa lately and really like the look and feel of the tatula 100. I do not like the traditional magnetic brakes on a lot of reels but the research I've done tells me the magforce z is bot a traditional magnetic brake. I loves centrifugal brakes but what is everyone's opinion between the 2. Quote
Russ E Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 I have used both. I no longer own any shimano reels. I own 3 Tatula ct's and 2 Tatula sv's. the magforce z is a centrifugal magnetic brake. Easy to set and very forgiving. If a Tatula is set correctly it is one of the easiest reels to use. 2 Quote
Cgrinder Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Magforce Z is a straightforward system that produces good results. The pin and dial SVS Infinity nonsense on the 2012 - 2015 model year Shimano reels I owned did not perform for me. Plenty of people seem to like SVS though so who knows. Quote
LonnieP Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Magforce Z by a long shot. My Daiwas are a lot easier to set up and use than my Shimano’s. Quote
Matt_3479 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 I own 1 daiwa and 8-10 shimano! I will take a shimano any day of the week over a daiwa. My tatula is one of my most finicky reels i own actually, casting distance is a lot less then any of my shimano’s. I just put 2 brakes on and send her! I feel as though I have a lemon daiwa, as I set up my dads and both his reels aren’t as finicky, and seem to get better distance. Not as good as the shimano’s but much better then my tatula Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Daiwa uses a few different brake systems. They vary between models. You can’t lump them all together Quote
gilkeybr Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 I too prefer the magforce Z to the SVS brakes. I feel I have much more control over the spool speed. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted June 26, 2019 Super User Posted June 26, 2019 For those that like mag force in regards of control, you can do the same with centrifugal brake just set more tension spool to slow fall and believe you will get the same distance if not more compare to mag brake. For heavy lure and if distance is concern SVS all the way. Mag force to me is shine on light lure and if you cast into wind. 1 Quote
Cgrinder Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, JustJames said: For those that like mag force in regards of control, you can do the same with centrifugal brake just set more tension spool to slow fall and believe you will get the same distance if not more compare to mag brake. For heavy lure and if distance is concern SVS all the way. Mag force to me is shine on light lure and if you cast into wind. Different strokes. I find Magforce Z excellent for distance casting with heavy lures. Daiwa reels can be l o n g. Quote
Stephen B Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 I prefer Shimano but love Daiwa too. However, Different strokes for different folks. Quote
CrankFate Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 I prefer a mechanical brake. I consider these “real” brakes. China has made major advancements in rare earths, but friction brakes still work better for casting hard for long distances. If you are going to be casting with full power for long distance, the SVS is better. Mags and things like Magforce Z are best for the short to mid distance casts you see in bass tournaments. So it depends on what you’re doing. I’m always aiming for max distance, but I get better accuracy with the SVS brakes, too. I always find it easier to dial it in with a mechanical brake than a magnet. No matter how many clicks there are on the mag dial, it still only works out to 3 levels—low, medium and a little more medium. You have to try both to see what works best for you. The Tatula 100 is an all around great reel. By price, it still wins for nearly everything. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted June 27, 2019 Super User Posted June 27, 2019 A person will probably do better with what they are familiar with. I own both. For light lures I would rather have a Daiwa. Was out for the first time with a Scorpion 70HG (SVS braking) Sunday. Casting with a TDX (also first time out with it for me) was a breeze. Not so much with the 70. The TDX has Magforce V. I didn't get much time with either reel (wife was wanting to leave) so I didn't get to mess much with the SVS brakes. Had already read they need to be set high. I did get a backlash with it when I tried to lower the outside dial. Have all 4 on inside. There are a lot of posts on setting up the Magforce Z reels correctly. Personally I think you owe it to yourself to try a Tatula. I do have a few reels with Magforce Z. A Zillion 50th Anniversary is one of my favorite reels. But so is a Curado 201E7 and Chronarch 100B. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted June 27, 2019 Super User Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, new2BC4bass said: Was out for the first time with a Scorpion 70HG (SVS braking) Sunday. Casting with a TDX (also first time out with it for me) was a breeze. Not so much with the 70. The TDX has Magforce V. I didn't get much time with either reel (wife was wanting to leave) so I didn't get to mess much with the SVS brakes. The spool of Curado spin super fast despite with its hefty weight. I had to dial in for a long time before get a hang of it. As of now I have 3 brake on and dial at 2-5, but still get backlash from time to time when not careful. I have to set spool tension a little tight where a little tug make only a few loop on spool. I don’t have this problem with 200i, bantam or even with SLX with only 2 brake on. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted June 28, 2019 Super User Posted June 28, 2019 Shimano SVS infinity > >Magforce 3D > >VBS >Magforce Z > > > > > > > > >SV concept Quote
Shimano_1 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 If I were just comparing braking systems I'd give daiwa a slight edge. However...I prefer shimano in every other aspect. Ergonomics, smoothness, quietness etc. I've had several of the newer daiwas and they are fine reels but I much prefer curados and slx reels overall. Shimanos are much more consistent also. Buy 5 daiwas and no 2 will feel exactly the same. One may be super smooth and quiet while one is geary and loud. Shimano seems like they all feel the same. This has been my experience anyways and I'm sure some would argue it the other way. Whichever feels best to you is right for you. Either braking system will do its job just fine Quote
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