Light fluro on spinning reels

[RealtreeByGod]

Wanted to try fluro as a main line for my new M/L rod, spooled 7lb Sunline Sniper first on a Quantum Throttle 20 and then some 3000 sized Lews Speed Spin I got in a combo and had the absolute worst time with line management on both of them. Loops would twist in the line when reeling, a good 10 or so extra feet would shoot off the spool between the time the lure would hit the water and I would close the bail, line would lay behind the spool and get sucked up onto the reel's axle.

 

What's the problem here? Did I spool badly and give it a bunch of twist? I did on the ground with the label facing up like I do with no issue with mono and braid. Is fluro something you can only really get away with on higher-dollar spinning reels? I'm very discouraged about it, especially since Sunline is supposed to be one of the best fluro lines you can buy. Gonna switch back to Trilene mono and maybe use the rest of my Sunline for leader material.

[MN Fisher]

KVD Line and Lure Conditioner - I use it on my Yo-Zuri hybrid and it tames it down quite nicely.

[rangerjockey]

Sounds like the spool may be too full. Also are you closing the bail by hand ?

[Todd2]

4 hours ago, RealtreeByGod said:

 

 

What's the problem here? Did I spool badly and give it a bunch of twist? I did on the ground with the label facing up like I do with no issue with mono and braid.

Forget the label, I've seen this wrong on different spools of the same brand before.

 

Two ways to do it that I know.

 

1.) Flat on a floor, with line coming off counter clockwise.

 

2.) On a nail, with line coming off the bottom (on a baitcaster, the line should come off the top).

 

Both of these work great for me regardless of line type.

[Brad Reid]

Todd2 has it correct.

 

I tell people to think of the line coming off a line spool this way:

 

For a casting reel, it comes off like an overhanded pitch in baseball;

 

For a spinning reel, you pull the line off the line spool as if it is an underhanded "softball" pitch.

 

It orients the bias on a spooled line correctly for each version, easy to remember. You know, the bias that, for example, a garden hose keeps . . . forever.

 

Well, that said, you may still hate fluorocarbon as a main line even if you get it spooled on correctly. I'd say well over 50% do.

 

And, I wanted to add that line conditioners might not work for pure fluorocarbon lines since they are relatively molecularly impervious to penetration. For example, they don't soak up water as monofilament lines do. My guess is these conditioners just coat the outside of fluorocarbon lines . . . but I don't know if a coating helps performance issues with fluoro or not.

 

Me? Braid to fluoro leaders.

 

Brad

[Tennessee Boy]

I always untwist my line after spooling it on my spinning reels....always.  Just run all the line out with nothing attached to the line and then reel it back in.  It’s easiest to do it on the water but it can be done in the backyard.  

[TOXIC]

Nature of the beast.  I would have hoped that the newer generations of fluro figured out this problem that had plagued spinning reel applications.  From what I read here some are better but it is still a problem.  I won't spool a spinning rod with fluro.  Not worth the hassle and there are other lines that behave better.  

 

PS....it doesn't matter if you get the fluro spooled with -0- line twist, it will still act the same way.  

[ChrisD46]

1 hour ago, Todd2 said:

Forget the label, I've seen this wrong on different spools of the same brand before.

 

Two ways to do it that I know.

 

1.) Flat on a floor, with line coming off counter clockwise.

 

2.) On a nail, with line coming off the bottom (on a baitcaster, the line should come off the top).

 

Both of these work great for me regardless of line type.

+1 ... I also only use a "top shot" of FC of maybe 50 yards max. with mono backing and leave about 1/8" of spool lip space so as not to over fill . I use KVD conditioner on a clean rag and pass the line through my fingers as I spool . *Still , I don't like FC line on a spinning reel and only use it for shallow drop shot to avoid a bunch of knots - otherwise I am a braid main line to +FC leader fan on spinning reels .

[TBAG]

57 minutes ago, TOXIC said:

Nature of the beast.  I would have hoped that the newer generations of fluro figured out this problem that had plagued spinning reel applications.  From what I read here some are better but it is still a problem.  I won't spool a spinning rod with fluro.  Not worth the hassle and there are other lines that behave better.  

 

PS....it doesn't matter if you get the fluro spooled with -0- line twist, it will still act the same way.  

Out of curiosity what is your preferred line on a spinning reel?

[TOXIC]

All of my spinning reels have either mono 90%, Co-poly 5% or straight braid 5%.  Fluro is reserved for my crankbait rods and baitcasters.  But that is what I am comfortable with.  YMMV.

[Fishes in trees]

My first guess would be that the spool is over filled.  Second guess would be that you've used too strong a test.  I wouldn't use anything over 8lb -6 lb would probably work better.

[Efishin]

2 minutes ago, Fishes in trees said:

My first guess would be that the spool is over filled.  Second guess would be that you've used too strong a test.  I wouldn't use anything over 8lb -6 lb would probably work better.

Agreed!

[islandbass]

If the excellent advice offered still doesn’t help, keep in mind that not all fc lines are equal in their suppleness.

 

Some are hard and “wiry” and springy out of the gate while others are supple and more manageable. I would never go higher than 6# test and the best “supple” fc line I’ve used that works great on spinning reels say in the 2000-3000 class is 6# invisx.

 

I’ve heard great stuff about tatsu but I haven’t gotten around to trying it. 

 

Save the wiry fcs for casting reels and use only fc lines that are a little more supple and manageable on spinning reel like invisx. 

[rangerjockey]

I've fished the 5 lb. sniper on spinning reels for years..Zero issues and I've never owned a spray or conditioner.

[WVU-SCPA]

7 lb sniper has been on one of my spinning reels the last 2 years.

 

I haven't quite figured out the equation to it.

 

 

[RealtreeByGod]

13 hours ago, Tennessee Boy said:

I always untwist my line after spooling it on my spinning reels....always.  Just run all the line out with nothing attached to the line and then reel it back in.  It’s easiest to do it on the water but it can be done in the backyard.  

I even did this, I dragged the whole length of line behind  me with the bail open while hauling ass on a kayak and it seemed to help for about 30 casts and then went back to what it was doing.