waking spinnerbaits

[jimmyjoe]

   Sometimes I "wake" a spinnerbait just under the surface. The spinnerbaits I have will cant (roll to the side) because I normally buy them for slower, deeper rolling. What are some spinnerbaits that do NOT roll like that when waked? (I prefer double Colorado.)   Thnx.    jj

[Glaucus]

Z-Man SlingBladeZ run true as can be and don't roll. However, they come in double Willow or Willow/Colorado.

[jimmyjoe]

7 minutes ago, Glaucus said:

Z-Man SlingBladeZ run true as can be and don't roll. However, they come in double Willow or Willow/Colorado.

    I've been using the spinnerbaits I already have. I have not used willow or willow/Colorado, because I had noticed that they had to be retrieved faster to maintain the same depth as a single or double Colorado. But I'm willing to learn, willing to change. Are there double willow or willow/Colorado spinnerbaits that can be waked and waked SLOW? The slower speed gets me better hookups over brushpiles and sunken trees.   jj

[A-Jay]

@jimmyjoe

This might help ~

A-Jay

[jimmyjoe]

   Thanks, @A-Jay        jj

[Big Rick]

I know you stated you wanted TWO blades, but the Zorro Baits Short Arm Aggravator is one of the best waking spinnerbaits on the planet. It flat out catches fish. 

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/catpage-ZORROBAITS.html?from=basres

 

[Catt]

What you will find is a spinnerbait rolls because it being retrieved to fast for that design.

 

To cause a spinnerbait to "wake" you don't necessarily have to retrieve it fast, simply start by holding your rod tip up.

[fin]

2 hours ago, Catt said:

To cause a spinnerbait to "wake" you don't necessarily have to retrieve it fast, simply start by holding your rod tip up.

And never let it sink to begin with. Start retrieving before it hits the water.

 

9 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

What are some spinnerbaits that do NOT roll like that when waked?

I think it's safe to say heavier spinnerbaits are generally less likely to roll. I guess if the blades and/or skirts are big enough, it will still roll, and if you've got a paddle trailer, who knows. It's not a simple question, there are several factors at play.

[jimmyjoe]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

What you will find is a spinnerbait rolls because it being retrieved to fast for that design.

 

To cause a spinnerbait to "wake" you don't necessarily have to retrieve it fast, simply start by holding your rod tip up.

   Okay. I need to start from the beginning.

   This is in lakes, not the river.

   There are two areas, in two different lakes, of brush, dead downed trees and piles of limbs that top out shallow or stick out of the water. These areas hold niiiiice bass. They're a ways from shore (remember; I'm a shorecaster) and it takes all I can muster to hit them or cast slightly over them.

    If you let your lure drop into that mess, it's bye-bye lure. Believe me. I know. Even worms and flukes get hung up.

 

    Boatmen get fish out of this mess by pitchin' or flippin'. I can't do that. If I have a spinnerbait that doesn't sink fast, like my J-Mac double Colorados, I can cast out into this mess and retrieve the s-bait really shallow, essentially waking it. When I do that, I get fish and I get to keep my lures to cast again. That's always fun.   ???

    Even the J-Mac wants to roll if retrieved a tiny bit too fast, and sink too much if retrieved a tiny bit too slow.

    And yes, if I didn't have so much line out I could control the spinnerbait a lot easier. A high rod tip at this distance makes a little difference, but not much.  ?

 

    Tandem blade s-baits generally have to be retrieved too fast, and I get lots of short strikes. If I put on stinger hooks, it doesn't seem to improve my hookup ratio. It can, however, improve my "snag ratio".  ☹️☹️

    The only thing that seems to work is a SLOW RETRIEVE. Then I get good fish, good hookups, and usually can pull the fish to me before he can get to the "inner sanctum" of the brushpile.

    I know there are good "waking" spinnerbaits out  there, ones that are stable. And I hope that some of them can wake slow.  I also know that there are scads of people out there who CLAIM they have the right spinnerbait, and they don't.

    One other thing; I use mono, not braid, for this.

 

    So now you know, as Paul Harvey used to say, " .... the rest of the story."  Can you help me? And BTW .... don't tell me, "Get a boat". That ain't gonna happen. Last guy who tried to sell me a boat, the boat stunk to high heaven. His name was No-something-or-other.  ☺️    jj

   

P.S.   I'll chk out the Zorro, @Big Rick. Thnx.

  

 

  

[Catt]

War Eagle Wake Spinnerbait ?

[jimmyjoe]

19 minutes ago, Catt said:

War Eagle Wake Spinnerbait ?

   Hallelujah!! How did I not see that? That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for!

   So much for Google Search!    ?

   Come Monday, Jimmy's piggy-bank is gonna be a little slimmer ...... ?

    Thnx, @Catt       jj

[Deleted account]

I don't wake spinnerbaits nearly as much as I used to, but a single colorado, Indiana or wide willow blade on a short arm with heavy mono makes it almost automatic. These days, a swim jig with a somewhat aggressive tail works as well or better for me, but I gotta admit, sometimes that bulge, gurgle, gurgle thing with a surface breaking splish every so often thrown in is money. 

[papajoe222]

I'll offer a tip or two on waking spinnerbaits Go one size smaller on the back blade, that'll help eliminate the bait rolling on it's side. The other is to let the blade break the surface occasionally during your retrieve.  It has the same effect as bumping cover or changing speed....a deadly combination of speed and another triggering factor.

[scaleface]

The old Charlie Campbell spinnerbait from Blakemore was made for waking . It was a 1/2 ounce bait with a deeply cupped size 7 [ I believe] Colorado blade . I have not seen blades like that on any other lure . I won my first club tournament on that lure .

[Paul Roberts]

Removing the trailer can help too. And... ditto the single-spins.

[Bluebasser86]

The War Eagle Wake is a really good one. It's the one I buy if I'm not making my own.