MartinTheFisherman Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 I have never thought of this before but, isn't it dangerous using braid that let's say could be 50lbs? If there is a boat or some guy on a ski jet, and you don't see them and cast, cant the line gets tangled with the boat/motor? or the person in it? isn't it possible someone could get killed? or if you get snagged and try to pull the lure out and the lure comes flying back? will it break rods? or am I just paranoid? Quote
LionHeart Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 You're just paranoid. ? You'll always be able to find a way to hurt yourself or someone else if you try hard enough 5 5 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, MartinTheFisherman said: I have never thought of this before but, isn't it dangerous using braid that let's say could be 50lbs? If there is a boat or some guy on a ski jet, and you don't see them and cast, cant the line gets tangled with the boat/motor? or the person in it? isn't it possible someone could get killed? or if you get snagged and try to pull the lure out and the lure comes flying back? will it break rods? or am I just paranoid? Of all the things mentioned above, braking a rod when stuck is really the only thing that one is likely to see on a regular basis. If braid gets caught in a prop (or anything with a sharp edge) it will part with little effort. Sure freakish things can happen, but you could also get hit by lightning. 1 Quote
Arcs&sparks Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Never wrap (any) line around your fingers/hands to pull out a snag. use a wood dowel or other solid object. Freeing a snag in a tree always has its hazards. When you free the lure from an underwater snag with braid, pulling strait-not with the rod tip, it generally doesn’t fly back because of the lack of stretch. If you snag a moving boat, the drag should slip and spool you. 3 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, LionHeart said: You're just paranoid. ? You'll always be able to find a way to hurt yourself or someone else if you try hard enough X2 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 I find 50lb braid with a 2 ounce weight (...and accurate cast) can take care of many jet skies ??? 3 7 Quote
Fishingmickey Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Braid can cut you very easily. hence the don't wrap it around your fingers or hands comments. 50lb and up would probably make a very nice garrote. Does a good job of slicing block cheese too. FM 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 30, 2019 Global Moderator Posted May 30, 2019 I use 80# braid for specific presentations. If a jet ski gets close enough to cause a problem we're both in trouble. Mike 2 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 I made a long cast last Saturday (with braid.) At the exact same time, a heron took off from my right moving to my left and I watched in horror as the tungsten trig wrapped around his legs and my spool started screaming. I let it free spool for a sec and then decided to thumb it -- fortunately (for me) I was using a leader and the leader snapped immediately and the heron continued on. I only hope that the rest of the leader/lure unwound instantaneously and fell off before he ever tried to land. 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 The only thing I would worry about is breaking or losing my rod if I was to hit a passing boat in such a way that it got caught on the boat but not in the motor so the line did not cut. It's generally fairly easy to avoid these scenarios by paying attention to your surroundings. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Fishingmickey said: 50lb and up would probably make a very nice garrote. I like where your head is at, but I prefer bicycle gear cable and two dowels, works great (hypothetically of course)... Quote
Johnbt Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 "I find 50lb braid with a 2 ounce weight (...and accurate cast) can take care of many jet skies" I have an 11-foot spinning rod you can borrow. It will toss an 8-ounce pyramid sinker a good ways with braid if you'd like to try for bigger game. I'll be back from Ocracoke Island in a week or two. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 Alright guys, that's enough. Quote
Fishingmickey Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Speaking of Heron's, Choporoz. I did catch one a couple of years back. I was working along a reed line and I cast my spinner bait. Right as I threw a long cast the heron took off from a gap in the reeds. He/she flew into my line. It caught him/her across the wings and got wrapped. I just thumbed the spool. The Heron came down out of the sky and was sort of flopping it's wings on top of the water trying to get away. I got the bird next to the boat and grabbed the bill. I covered it's head with my rain jacket. I folded the wings and lifted the bird into the boat. I saw my spinner bait dangling, cut the line and dropped the lure into the hull. I un-threaded my line from around the bird. I then let the very unhappy heron go. This was during a kayak tournament and unfortunately it got witnessed. Needless to say I got a good bit of ribbing at the awards that afternoon. FM 3 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted May 30, 2019 Super User Posted May 30, 2019 If you're using a rod that accommodates 50lb braid and you break said rod trying to free a snag, you weren't trying to free that lure the proper way to begin with. 3 Quote
CrankFate Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 When I was a kid I was flying a kite, it crashed on the other side of a highway. As I was pulling it back, a truck hit the string and started pulling it, burning my hands to the point that I could’ve lost my fingers. So I let go. As long as you don’t grab the line with your hands when a boat catches it, you’ll probably be ok ? Quote
Shimano_1 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 I've never been in a situation where my line could have gotten in the way of someone's boat or jet skit. Hypothetically anything is possible but I'd venture to say you would have to be looking for trouble to get into it that way. Been using braid for years and only thing it's ever hurt was my finger, I dont tug on it with bare hands anymore 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted May 31, 2019 Super User Posted May 31, 2019 I had a boat cross my line years ago. It spooled me and snapped the line. It was 30 lb test braid. 65 might bend ur spool axle. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 2, 2019 Global Moderator Posted June 2, 2019 My BIL got a T-rig and 1/2oz pegged tungsten bullet weight snagged in a tree on 50lb braid once while he was fishing with me. I had a 30oz Ozark Trail metal drink cup on the front deck and when that hook broke at the bend the sinker came back with so much force, it hit my cup full of water, put a big dent in the side of that cup and knocked the whole thing over. Not sure what the FPS that sinker was moving at, but the "PING" it made when it hit my cup made me thing that someone shot at me and hit my cup. I'd be more worried about getting tangled in old fishing line while swimming in a lake. Lots of people on shore seem to get snagged and instead of wrapping the line up and pulling to break it, they just cut it the rod tip, leaving obscene amounts of line in the water (often they're catfishing with heavy mono or braid), that is just left to tangle in everything that comes in contact with it. Old trotlines and limblines that people set and then never remove from the lake are also a huge concern because they're so popular in the lakes around here. 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted June 2, 2019 Super User Posted June 2, 2019 Well a jet ski doesn't have a propeller and I guess if you have vision like Ray Charles you "might" cast near a boat. But to think there may be a fatality is wild. 1 Quote
AlTheFisherman313 Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 Heavy braid is more of an equipment risk mainly on the pole, now I’m not sure if your fishing conditions but assuming your not throwing a birds nest of braid off the boat I’m not so sure it would hurt anything. On a side note I saw a guy throw a bird nest in the water and I called the dnr ? I cannot stand fisherman who are inconsiderate slobs. Also, casting where people are thrashing on a jet ski near you would probably spook the fish so I wouldn’t worry about that so much If your a kayak fisherman who targets river musky in Michigan you can get in more trouble from being towed, I’m not sure why people fish from a kayak for a potential 50 inch fish. I don’t even like landing a 30+ pike on my kayak. It’s intimidating ?, but if your near rapids that’s musky is gonna dive and head for the rapids so if your getting towed you better have superline scissors lol. Also if you do snag throw on gloves or wrap it around some wood and hope the knot pulls or get as close as you can to the lure before cutoff. Leaves way less line in the water. Often a little jiggle when trying to unsnag you get lucky and it wiggles loose. 1 Quote
Jaderose Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 I use 50 lb braid on my frog rod. But I also use a small section of 16-20lb leader. Like 6" to 1'. I know I can break that leader way easier than that braid if I get caught or snagged on something after a bomber cast and I have no way of going in after it. Saved a TON of line staying in the water for a critter to get tangled in. The waters I fish have no pleasure boaters or jet skis so no worries there. I've also gotten deadly accurate with my casts on the frog so that helps but occasionally I'll uncork one that as soon as it leaves the rod, I know I'm screwed....lol 1 Quote
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