snap back????

[whitearrow]

ok fellas what cause snap back??? it happens to me and my son with me throwing a morrum sx3600 and him throwing a calcutta 200gtb. it doesn't happen but like 1 or 2 times outta 10 casts but dang is it ever so frustrating. both reels are lined with 20lb mono backing to 50lb braid/12lb mono equivalent size and a 20lb fluoro leader. the cast will go about 10-20' then bang a sudden halt with no back lash.

thanks,

Big Ed 

[dodgeguy]

Has to be a backlash of some type. You either have brakes to loose or casting way to hard.

 

[CrankFate]

Clicking it into gear during the cast?

[whitearrow]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

Has to be a backlash of some type. You either have brakes to loose or casting way to hard.

 

now dodge ya might be on to something there bud. i'm sure i have my cast control and mag brakes a bit loose,ok almost freespool, and i rear back and let her rip on casts most of the time to maximize my lure in the water ratio. so, why would that happen? spool spinning faster than lure going out??

thanks,

Ed

[GreenPig]

Loose line on the spool is likely the cause. Due to retrieving line with little or no tension. 

[whitearrow]

wonder why this happens? why even if loose line on the spool it just doesn't flow on out fluidly? any way to combat that other than holding line between your thunb and index finger like your loading it with line??

thanks,

Ed

[whitearrow]

4 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said:

Worn and soft braid when wound onto the spool as slack line can stand up and form loops on the spool.  These loops fall onto their side and are covered with line.  On the cast they can tangle with line coming off the spool and cause a spool stoppage.  Strip some line off the spool and check for loops and uneven line lay on the spool.  

thanks baitfinesse. but, what to do when actually fishing as this doesn't happen all the time just infrequent but super frustrating...

thanks,

Ed 

[Dwight Hottle]

If the braid is digging in from a pull from a snag that will cause your cast to stop when you get to the spot on the spool where the line has dug in. Any time you snag and hold the spool from slipping as you pull back it will cause the braid to dig in on itself. 

[jimmyjoe]

  This is a good way to avoid the problem:

[Fishingmickey]

Whitearrow,

     It really sounds like dig-in. Where the braid from the previous cast was wound on tight enough to pinch itself into the deeper layers of braid. You cast hit that spot and it stops dead. Then you pull the line off and it comes right off because the cast pulled it out. You might try letting out a bunch of line and reeling your line back on under tension. This is so it is tightly wound on the spool. this should prevent the issue.

FM

[dodgeguy]

What weight braid are you using? What brand? Digging is caused by think line.

[whitearrow]

i'm using 50lb powerpro equivalent to 12lb mono size and my son is using suffix 50lb braid. both using diff reels and diff line combos. just strange as i've used baitcasting reels for 30yrs and don't remember this happening until recently. i don't remember this happening to my old abu 5500 c3's. i love my sx3600 mag morrum and my son loves his new shimano calcutta 200gtb but they both exhibit the same phenomenon for some reason. we texas rig plastic worms alot so maybe the drag then reel up slack is doing it for some unknown reason. man i don't know. thanks for all the thoughts though.

Big Ed

[Vilas15]

28 minutes ago, Fishingmickey said:

Whitearrow,

     It really sounds like dig-in. Where the braid from the previous cast was wound on tight enough to pinch itself into the deeper layers of braid. You cast hit that spot and it stops dead. Then you pull the line off and it comes right off because the cast pulled it out. You might try letting out a bunch of line and reeling your line back on under tension. This is so it is tightly wound on the spool. this should prevent the issue.

FM

To add, pull off a bit more than a really long cast length then put a piece of tape across the spool. From there any digging in wont go past that point and get too deep into the spool. Obviously if you cut line off or break any off youd need to reset so you never reach the tape on a long cast.

[jimmyjoe]

35 minutes ago, Vilas15 said:

To add, pull off a bit more than a really long cast length then put a piece of tape across the spool. From there any digging in wont go past that point and get too deep into the spool. Obviously if you cut line off or break any off youd need to reset so you never reach the tape on a long cast.

  Good idea, but the OP said line goes out 10-20 feet, then stops. Doubt that tape would help him.    jj

[dodgeguy]

I've seen braid do this at the start of the cast.put all your centrifugal brakes on and see if it stops. If so take them off slowly. I use a loose adjustment on the spool knob also. The centrifugal brakes work best at the beginning of the cast.

[whitearrow]

Thanks dodge but mine are magnetic on the Abu. Now my boys shimano is centrifugal and we will give it a shot. I just loooooove to get max distance outta my cast. 

Big Ed

[LionHeart]

Either line dig or the reel is engaging into gear during the cast.  I have experienced that multiple times with a certain reel that I use.  Since I started consciously keeping the thumb bar depressed with the base of my thumb while casting, it has not occured.

 

I am convinced that is what is happening with my reel.  Might be what you guys are experiencing but just seems odd that you are both getting it on 2 different reels.

 

 

[CrankFate]

4 minutes ago, LionHeart said:

Either line dig or the reel is engaging into gear during the cast.  I have experienced that multiple times with a certain reel that I use.  Since I started consciously keeping the thumb bar depressed with the base of my thumb while casting, it has not occured.

 

I am convinced that is what is happening with my reel.  Might be what you guys are experiencing but just seems odd that you are both getting it on 2 different reels.

 

 

I’ve done it. I make sure to cast with the reel handle perpendicular to my arm. Like a + 

 

With everything else that can go wrong, that one is easy. Also another reason a longer handle helps, because it’s easier to adjust with your left hand before casting.

[BillBrett]

I fish with Abu Garcia 3600 Morrums and never had this problem. I suggest you spool the reel(s) with just plain line (any type) using NO backing and NO leaders, and cast as usual.  If the "snap back" issue  goes away the problem is your leader-to line or backing-to-line connections passing through the level wind mechanism. 

[Deleted account]

This happens with some BCs and braid often when trying to launch big baits a ways. I have had it mostly with round reels in the salt. It is the combination of the start of a backlash and the line digging in. Tighten the brakes slightly and smooth out your casts a bit, until you get the right combination. going up in lb test will help as well. 

[bulldog1935]

I think there's a very high probability you didn't completely remove your last backlash, and wound over it.  

Looking at it, the reel looks fine, but it's still backlashed at the point the spool stops.  

The logical thing to do here is peel off some more line and wind it back up.  

[dodgeguy]

On 5/28/2019 at 2:28 PM, whitearrow said:

now dodge ya might be on to something there bud. i'm sure i have my cast control and mag brakes a bit loose,ok almost freespool, and i rear back and let her rip on casts most of the time to maximize my lure in the water ratio. so, why would that happen? spool spinning faster than lure going out??

thanks,

Ed

Yes

[garroyo130]

8 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

I think there's a very high probability you didn't completely remove your last backlash, and wound over it.  

 

Hes had nearly 2 years to completely remove that backlash

[bulldog1935]

yeah, there's a reason I moved from Austin

 

but if you haven't been that deep in 2 years, the backlash can be there indefinitely.