Standup vs stream kayak

[BoatSquirrel]

The main goal is to be able to lob glides and swimbaits while standing in a kayak with a solid platform.  Old Town Topwater, 3 Waters Big Fish, Jackson Bite are my current faves.  However I also fish some small streams and rivers with decent current.  Are these types of boats with stability type hulls hot garbage in moving water?  Thanks guys.

 

 

 

[Ksam1234]

5 hours ago, BoatSquirrel said:

The main goal is to be able to lob glides and swimbaits while standing in a kayak with a solid platform.  Old Town Topwater, 3 Waters Big Fish, Jackson Bite are my current faves.  However I also fish some small streams and rivers with decent current.  Are these types of boats with stability type hulls hot garbage in moving water?  Thanks guys.

 

 

 

I have no experience with those but I can tell you about the nucanoe series. I own the frontier 12 and it is amazing ! You can walk and jump and do whatever on it. Stable and moves just fine. The pursuit is amazing also

[Harold Scoggins]

I've heard that the Bonafide  shines in rivers and streams.

[LadiMopar]

I'm a  Feelfree kayak user and you may want to look at their Lure 13.5 model.  I have the Lure 10, and just bought the new Dorado 125 both of which are extremely stable for standing etc., but not really designed for faster river water.

 

The Lure 13.5 seems to be designed to do flat water, river and ocean...34 inches wide, large standing deck, their amazing seat, but in your case this model has a narrower keel for tracking in faster water.  

 

Not sure of your budget, but I can tell you from experience these boats are built to last.

https://feelfreeus.com/kayaks/fishing-kayaks/lure-13-5/

 

Best of luck in your quest.

LM 

[Brad Reid]

I'd take a hard look at the Native 12XC for both standing considerations and fishing streams.

 

Some of its built-ins include: a dedicated chain anchor chute, adjustable seat height, retractable skeg, under-seat storage, and vertical and horizontal rod storage.

 

This paddle kayak is ready to fish. Too many kayaks, both pedal and paddle types, need hundreds of dollars of after-purchase add-ons to make them fit for fishing. Others? Grab a few rods and a few Plano boxes and hit the water. This one is like that.

 

Brad

[Hook2Jaw]

As a Hobie PA14 owner, I'm going to say this after seeing it in action.

 

Buy a Nucanoe Flint and stick a MK Riptide or Motorguide iPilot on it once you save up another grand.  The boat should be stable enough to bomb large baits standing as long as you're not the world record holder for worst balance -- and you throw off the front, that's a huge part.  Second, the size and width will make the boat excellent for rivers and streams, and better once you mount the motor.

[Smalls]

I love my Big Fish, but it’s not easy to control in current/wind. It does seem to want to position my bow into the wind naturally, which is nice. But it’s a beast to paddle, so I’m pretty worn out after a windy day. I haven’t had it in any super strong currents, but I imagine it’d act the same as it would in heavy winds. 

[clayton86]

Love my ATAK 120 and 140 for river fishing and throwing big swimbaits. I’ve developed a small addiction to phoneys and toxics plus many others but just those two brands alone I’ve got a unhealthy collection of lol. 

 

Id suggest test paddling some before you decide on what you want

[BoatSquirrel]

Thanks for the help yall.  Sure makes for a better thought out purchase when you have the knowledge and experience of BR at hand.

[flyfisher]

stability and a  good river or lake boat are usually two different things.  No boat will excel at both lakes and rivers with decent current.  Will they work for both, sure.  Paddle a bunch of boats and see hat you think.  Standing up to cast swimbaits or whatever isn't an issue anymore as there are lots of options out there.

I was sitting in my ATAK 140 today while frog fishing and had a blow up.  Without hesitation or even a second thought i stood straight up and finished the fight only to sit down while trying to lip the fish.  Now I will say the ATAK 140 is a great flatwater boat but for smaller flows it leaves a lot to be desired but it does work.  River boats need maneuverability and lake boats need good tracking, no boat has both at the top level.

[J Francho]

I did just okay with my commander 140 in creeks and current.  I think that it's just a length issue, being 14' long it can get in it's own way in tight waters.  A 120 would probably be better for small water.  My Hobie Compass is just 12', tracks well, and since it's got a rudder, maneuvers just fine in tight quarters.  I bomb big baits in it as well.  I think most brands' 12 models are a good mix of stability, tracking, and maneuverability.  It's really a test drive situation, though.

[Hower08]

I have a wilderness ride 135 super stable. I don't think it could be flipped unless you really really tried to. Tracks very well in creeks and rivers and handles waves on lakes very good also. I flip and pitch with big tackle from it no problems with hard hooksets or anything I stand up and fish the entire time from it also bowfish with no problems