What is the mono with the least amount of stretch?

[Tennessee Boy]

I recently tested #20 Sunline Supernatural by tying it to a five lbs weight and lifting the weight from 12 feet above and measuring the amount of stretch from the point where the line was taught until the weight was lifted off the floor.   I chose 5 lbs because this is typically what I would set my drag at with #20 test.   What percentage of stretch do you think I measured?

[J Francho]

2 hours ago, TOXIC said:

Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo.  Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers.  Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook.  No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.  

He should have had them place the hook point to their fingertip, and do the demonstration again.  I've hooked bony mouthed steelhead on super long drifts using 8# mono.  It doesn't take much to get a hook through, even with the stretch.  There's still pressure.  This is why sharp hooks are so important.  I believe the hook is more important, and line stretch is over played, when talking about lost fish.

[Todd2]

4 minutes ago, J Francho said:

He should have had them place the hook point to their fingertip, and do the demonstration again.  I've hooked bony mouthed steelhead on super long drifts using 8# mono.  It doesn't take much to get a hook through, even with the stretch.  There's still pressure.  This is why sharp hooks are so important.  I believe the hook is more important, and line stretch is over played, when talking about lost fish.

Agreed...you'd think nobody ever caught fish on Trilene XL all these years..lol. Reel into the fish and set the hook.

[WRB]

Try that demo with the reel set and rod sweep. Rod sets can't move enough line on a average casting distance to load the hook unless the lure is downward between 45-90 degrees. Hook set technique is important when casting over 30 yards.

Tom

[TOXIC]

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

He should have had them place the hook point to their fingertip, and do the demonstration again.  I've hooked bony mouthed steelhead on super long drifts using 8# mono.  It doesn't take much to get a hook through, even with the stretch.  There's still pressure.  This is why sharp hooks are so important.  I believe the hook is more important, and line stretch is over played, when talking about lost fish.

Exactly my point.  We over think stretch and the advantage of other lines like braid with its -0- stretch properties.  Good hooks are way more important.

[dodgeguy]

5 hours ago, rangerjockey said:

How did you test the " Advance has least stretch of any mono line " part ?

I've fished tons of different mono lines in 50 years. The minute you fish advance you can tell it's totally different. It's not even close. Hook into a big heavy tree limb and pull on it. You immediately notice you don't stretch anywhere near as much as any mono I've used. I'm not saying it doesn't stretch but it's far less. Have I done a test with 50 different lines and measured it ? No I have not. IMHO I don't need to. Sensitivity is also much better.

[Catt]

9 hours ago, TOXIC said:

Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo.  Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers.  Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook.  No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.  

 

I aint sure but it my have been Fishing Facts magazine that did a test years ago with different lines, rod lengths, & anglers of different heights, weights, & body builds.

 

That line was attached to a meter that showed pressure applied in pounds. The anglers tried different hook sets with different lines.

 

That maximum pounds applied was 6-8#!

 

Keep in mind this test & all the test showing line stretch the line is attached to an immovable object!

 

When we set hook the line starts to stretch, the rod starts to bow, & the bass starts to move.

 

[freelancer27]

Thanks all!

Will try the Defier Armilo and the Sufic advance

[tim_kovar]

On 5/17/2019 at 5:01 PM, freelancer27 said:

Thanks all!

Will try the Defier Armilo and the Sufic advance

Hey, curious to know what conclusions you came to in search of a low stretch mono from back in the day...

[WRB]

All single filament or “ monofilament” lines yield about 30-35% of the ultimate strength. Stretch is yield the point the line starts to elongate. 
If the fishing line has high ultimate strength it becomes harder and stiff with memory making it a poor choice for fishing line. Lower ultimate strength the line is softer decreasing memory and abrasion and knot strength but performs good as fishing line.

The ultimate “mono” is smaller diameter per lb test (ultimate strength) lower memory with good abrasion and  knot strength. Sunline Armilo Nylon was that line but no longer available.

Back in the 60’ Royal Bonyl mono was popular with smalller diameter but high memory. Maxima came out in the 70’s early copolymer “mono”  line with good abrasion, knot strength and average diameter with improved memory per lb test. Maxima was followed by P-Line CXX at a lower price price point however lower abrasion and knot strength per line dia. 
Line diameter is extremely important regarding memory and yield strength.

Today since Armilo isn’t available my choice is Maxima UG for bass fishing.

Tom

[RB 77]

On 5/15/2019 at 7:06 PM, A-Jay said:

Haven't tried them all, but here's 3 that I'd select as top performers

Maxima Ultragreen Line

Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo Nylon Line

P-Line CXX 

A-Jay

I haven't used Sunline Shooter (love Sniper fluoro tho) but, Maxima Ultragreen AND P-Line CXX are extremely strong lines. The Maxima was my go-to mono for years until I switched to P-Line. I use mostly Sufix now, but those other two are high quality lines. 

[Westcoast]

I’ve tried them all as I like mono for my salmon and steelhead  ,and bass. I’ve always wanted a line with the least stretch and greatest durability. Hands down I alway go back to maxima ultra green from 4# on bass dropshot to 40# on heavy chinook leaders, it never fails.