TotalNoob Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 Hello, I've been using Spiderwire fluorocarbon line exclusively ($10/roll @ WM) for the last couple years. The light bulb in my head has slowly been going off lately about the advantages of a smaller diameter line w equivalent or comparable tensile strength. I've been looking at the Seaguar fluoros and the two that stand out the most are the red label and invisx. I guess I'm not too concerned about the clarity of the line so much (aren't all fluorocarbons supposed to refract light the same as water, or at least all be comparable in that category?); fluoro to me is about sensitivity and abrasion resistance (vs mono). I use it typically as a leader to braid. It looks like the line diameters are the same between the two up to the 10lb rating, which is the range I'd be mostly looking to be in. With invisX coming in at $25/roll and red label at $15/roll I'm trying to determine if there is a substantial enough benefit to the invisx to justify the extra cost. I've read through multiple reviews on both, there seems to be a lot of good and bad chatter about each. I'm hoping to get some honest feedback from folks who've used both lines, or, if there are any other options recommended for my situation? Slightly off topic but pretty important ... looking around online I see that Amazon has red label for $10.87 Prime one-day delivery. That's pretty neat and all, but I read a review in there from a "top contributor" in the fishing category saying that he thought the line seemed to be a little old, perhaps having sat in an amazon warehouse too long. I've never really thought about that. Could explain the 1/3 savings? How do you know if you're getting "quality"/fresh line? Can tackle warehouse make that guarantee? Can any retailer? Where do you buy your line from confidently? What kinds of things would you look for when looking at a new spool of line to determine if it's old? I don't mind paying the extra money one bit as long as I'm getting what I pay for. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted May 13, 2019 Super User Posted May 13, 2019 InvizX : Handles better than Red Label on a spinning reel and seems to have a little more stretch ; better than Red Label as a main line on a spinning reel . Red Label : Better on a bait casting reel ; for spinning reel applications I use it for a FC leader with a braid main line in #8 lb. size . Both InvizX and Red Label have about the same knot strength (if you are careful). 1 Quote
Gorris317 Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 InvizX gets my vote. I swear by the stuff. No issues and is more manageable than Red Label, not saying RL is a pain but for the extra $$$ I would rather get InvizX. 1 Quote
CroakHunter Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 In my experience, monofilament or copolymer ties better knots and has just as much if not more abrasion resistance. Out of the 2 I would choose invizx for treble hook baits and red label for single hook baits 1 Quote
BassThumb Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 Invisx is the better line. Handles better and seems to be less prone to kinking. However, Red Label is still a good line; super cheap and has a bit less stretch. It's less supple and coils a bit more though, so casting distance is impaired slightly. I was using the #15 side by side on identical jigging setups last season and it was clear which line was better and lasted longer. Give them both a shot for a few months and bump this thread back up with your opinions. As far as the "old line", I wouldn't be too concerned. The stuff lasts for years without noticeable degradation if it's not exposed to extreme temps or humidity. I don't see an Amazon warehouse or any other distribution warehouse exposing products to those extremes, except for during shipping. 1 Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 My experience with Red Label and Invizx is 10# on a baitcaster. No spinning and nothing heavier than 10#. With that in mind, I found them very similar. Handled well and held knots fine, but both had poor abrasion resistance. The Invizx was noticeably stretchier in 10# test, like a rubber band. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I was fishing bottom contact jigs and t-rigs and didn't like it. So between the two for my application I chose Red Label. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 13, 2019 Super User Posted May 13, 2019 200 yard spool of line gives you 50 leaders 12' long, how many leaders do you use a year? Buy the best FC you can afford. Line stretch is a myth or a false sense of feel using mono/Copoly or FC line as a leader, it's too short length of line to detect fractions of an inch of stretch. What is felt is the line bow in the water tightening. I have caught 100's of DD size bass on 10 and 12 mono making casts between 30 yds to 50 yds and I can't detect any line stretching. If you want 100% knot strength, high abrasion resistance consider using Maxima Ultra Green coploy, Big Game mono or Trilene XT are all superior to FC with equal diameter. Tom 1 1 Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 InvisX will have more stretch and manage alot better. Red label gets the job done but you will need to be able to manage it well. 1 Quote
ckherring92 Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Hey there, I will start by saying of the two I have only tried red label. That being said. I wanted to try straight floro on one of my BC setups. And as you said the red label is much more affordable so I gave it a shot. It was a loose coiling nightmare from my experience. It didn't last the weekend before I swapped it back to braid. I still use it as leader material and it does great at that Edit: Forgot to mention I was/am using 12lb test red label 1 Quote
bh91 Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 Yea , I have gotten an older or bad spool if Red label from amazon before .. Quote
TotalNoob Posted May 15, 2019 Author Posted May 15, 2019 Thank you for all the feedback. I found invisx on amazon in 10lb for $18.99 Prime. As @WRB said, using as a leader material I can make a spool last quite a while. Seems like invisx has a little more stretch but as a leader to braid I don't think I'll mind that, especially if I need to have a setup double for jerkbaits/treblehooks @CroakHunter Quote
Yumeya Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 Red Label is not what it used to be, they also don't wind it onto the spool cleanly like they used to. I will take InvisX and Tatsu Quote
TotalNoob Posted May 15, 2019 Author Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Yumeya said: Red Label is not what it used to be, they also don't wind it onto the spool cleanly like they used to. I will take InvisX and Tatsu After I checked out the invisx on amazon they auto-populate a "similar purchases" type page. First thing that popped up was the Tatsu. When I looked at it on amazon I saw they had 10lb for $31.13 prime. I only briefly looked at tatsu before making this thread and dismissed it due to cost. Can you articulate why tatsu is superior (or at least how it's different) from invisx? Quote
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