Help Needed: Curado 51e Noise When Casting

[bunz559]

I have a Curado 51e that I purchased used awhile back and have been piecing parts to restore it. I've replaced the drive gear, pinion gear, the most common bearings along with the shaft bearing. I've cleaned and lubed everything. The reel retrieves fine and everything seems to work as it should when a fish is hooked on. There is one problem, when I cast, the reel makes a terrible noise that has a slight vibration. Casting distance doesn't seem affected, but this noise definitely doesn't sound right. It's not a clicking sound like some folks have with the thumb bar when casting. It sounds like the brakes, or spool, are rubbing against something making a rough noise when casting. It starts loud during the initial cast and dissipates as the spool slows down/stops.

 

Anyone have any suggestions on what I should take a look at or replace? I'd greatly appreciate it.

 

 

[fishballer06]

Check the pin on the spool shaft and make sure it is straight. 

[bunz559]

26 minutes ago, fishballer06 said:

Check the pin on the spool shaft and make sure it is straight. 

Will take a look at that. Thanks! Didn't even think to check that. 

[OkobojiEagle]

Mine would squeal some when the drum around the plastic brakes would get dry... one drop of oil on a q'tip run around it would fix the problem.

 

 

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[webertime]

Ceramic bearings? 

[bunz559]

17 hours ago, webertime said:

Ceramic bearings? 

Yes. Boca orange seal bearings. 

[webertime]

Ceramics can be a weird loud. 

[craww]

Everytime I've had a reel screech like that it was a bearing. If you have another shimano I'd swap them and see if it stops since it only takes 30 seconds or so.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Screeching noises attributed to bearings is more often brakes. Make sure the drum is clean and apply a light film of light oil. Also make sure that one of the brake pins didn’t come loose from the hub and hitting the drum. Ceramic bearings have a sound but shouldn’t vibrate. IMO the “noise” of them is blown out of proportion. 

[bunz559]

16 hours ago, webertime said:

Ceramics can be a weird loud. 

 

13 hours ago, craww said:

Everytime I've had a reel screech like that it was a bearing. If you have another shimano I'd swap them and see if it stops since it only takes 30 seconds or so.

They are slightly louder, but I do have them in several of my Chronarch 51e. But it wouldn't hurt to try. Process of elimination could save guessing and some money ordering parts that aren't affected. Thanks!

13 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Screeching noises attributed to bearings is more often brakes. Make sure the drum is clean and apply a light film of light oil. Also make sure that one of the brake pins didn’t come loose from the hub and hitting the drum. Ceramic bearings have a sound but shouldn’t vibrate. IMO the “noise” of them is blown out of proportion. 

I could agree. I have quite a few reels with Boca ceramic bearings and while they're slightly noisier, they're not terribly bad. Thanks much for your input, I'll definitely check the brake pins. I know I gave this thing a nice clean and hit all the regular spots with some oil and lube. 

 

If it were the brake pins, what is your suggestion? Can I order just that part? Doesn't look like the spool assembly can be purchased separately except the brake collars. I swear, the more I invest into fixing this darn reel, I could've purchased something new. LOL! Someone really screwed me with this one. 

[bunz559]

Sound has been fixed! Thanks for all the input folks! I replace the yoke,  yoke springs, and the pinion gear bearing. 

[Heartland]

4 hours ago, bunz559 said:

Sound has been fixed! Thanks for all the input folks! I replace the yoke,  yoke springs, and the pinion gear bearing. 

Interesting, because none of the parts you listed have any effect on casting, that part of the reel is disengaged during casting.  If they were failing to disengage properly you would have experienced a significant loss of distance during casting.

[bunz559]

14 hours ago, Heartland said:

Interesting, because none of the parts you listed have any effect on casting, that part of the reel is disengaged during casting.  If they were failing to disengage properly you would have experienced a significant loss of distance during casting.

For what ever reason, another forum or group had suggested it. I forgot to mention, I did change out the brake collars as well since I have extras from other reels. Not sure if that helped, but between those changes, the reel is quiet again. 

[Heartland]

7 hours ago, bunz559 said:

For what ever reason, another forum or group had suggested it. I forgot to mention, I did change out the brake drums as well since I have extras from other reels. Not sure if that helped, but between those changes, the reel is quiet again. 

Glad you were able to resolve the issue.  The brake drum is the metal ring inside the palm side plate, the brake tabs are the small plastic pieces that are on the end of the brake pins and provide the braking force.  

[bunz559]

3 hours ago, Heartland said:

Glad you were able to resolve the issue.  The brake drum is the metal ring inside the palm side plate, the brake tabs are the small plastic pieces that are on the end of the brake pins and provide the braking force.  

I meant brake collars. Apologize. 

[Heartland]

1 hour ago, bunz559 said:

I meant brake collars. Apologize. 

No problem at all just wanted to make sure we were talking apples to apples.