Seaguar Tatsu

[Tim Kelly]

Does anyone really think there are benefits to using fluoro over mono in tests lighter than 8lb? The reason I ask is that I've tried a few different fluoros in the lighter tests and other than being more difficult to manage on spinning reels, I couldn't tell a difference between them and mono. Once you get to the 8-10lb catagory the difference in density starts to become noticeable, so you get the benefits of better slack line detection and the different pull angle, though 8 is marginal and 10 impossible on spinning gear, so you're soon into casting gear.  

[NHBull]

I was 100% braid, or braid to leader guy.

Today, I have some Defier and Tatsu for a few applications.

......While Tatsu will have you pucker at first, it is far superior to the rest of FC, but is doesn't like to be kinked. I do back it and only keep 75 yards on a spool

[Hammer 4]

Tatsu has been the go to flouro for a loooong time..I've tried them all.

[Bluebasser86]

I was all but done with fluoro until I tried Tatsu, the stuff is everything fluoro is supposed to be without the mystery break offs and knot tying headaches. I've drug several fish out of places I never should have been able to with 15lb Tatsu. I cut down the cost by filling my spools with mono backing so I only need about 50 yards of fluoro to fill them the rest of the way. That way 1 spool fills 4 reels, or 1 reel 4 times, and breaks down to closer to $15 per fill up. 

[TBAG]

On 5/4/2019 at 2:04 AM, Tim Kelly said:

Does anyone really think there are benefits to using fluoro over mono in tests lighter than 8lb? The reason I ask is that I've tried a few different fluoros in the lighter tests and other than being more difficult to manage on spinning reels, I couldn't tell a difference between them and mono. Once you get to the 8-10lb catagory the difference in density starts to become noticeable, so you get the benefits of better slack line detection and the different pull angle, though 8 is marginal and 10 impossible on spinning gear, so you're soon into casting gear.  

 

What mono do you primarily use on your spinning reels? 

[Tim Kelly]

Maxima ultragreen and CXX

[joker]

Has anyone ever compared the breaking strength of Tatsu and floroclear? The best line ever made and the worst line ever made. Compare lines of the same diameter (ie 12lb floroclear to 15lb tatsu, or 8lb floroclear to 10lb tatsu). Use terminal knots and break them on a spring scale. You may be surprised by the results.

[jbrew73]

Have you tested it? What were your findings?

[joker]

12lb floroclear = 14lbs

15lb tatsu = 12lbs

 

8lb floroclear = 9.5lbs

10lb tatsu = 6.5lbs

 

That's dry line with grigsby knot and palomar knot tied to snaps. Lines mostly broke in the center not at the knots. Would be interesting to try it wet with different knots. I now however use the palomar knot. The grigsby knot will just fall apart if it is hit with something (like a worm weight).

[Team9nine]

I did a more basic, albeit painful test.

 

Floroclear 12# and 15# = lots of broken off fish

Tatsu 8, 10, 12, and 15# = never broken off a fish

 

I'd retest again, but I trashed all the remaining FloroClear I had, so I lost that option 

 

Seaguar (Tatsu, InvizX) and Toray...Very little interest in playing around with any more fluoro brands at this point in my fishing life because those two are so good 

[WRB]

On May 5, 2019 at 5:02 AM, TBAG said:

 

What mono do you primarily use on your spinning reels? 

Spinning for me are finesse only use and 5# Maxima Ultra Green is the only mono/Copoly I use on spinning and Sunline Sniper 7# Sunline Sniper FC.

Tom

PS, when you have hooked the bass of a lifetime the last thing you want to worry about is knot failure and I am always concerned when using FC line.

[Heartland]

On 5/2/2019 at 1:22 PM, TBAG said:

So would you recommend 6 pound to put on my spinning outfits? Ci4+ 2500 used for wacky rig/weightless Senkos and another I use for Ned rig.

Just a suggestion.  Save yourself some money and use a 10-15 lb braided line with a FC leader if needed.  Braid is great on spinning reels because it handles the inherent line twist much better than other types of line.   Tatsu is a fantastic FC line, but not really necessary on spinning equipment to get fantastic performance.

[Bluebasser86]

On 5/17/2019 at 10:41 PM, Team9nine said:

I did a more basic, albeit painful test.

 

Floroclear 12# and 15# = lots of broken off fish

Tatsu 8, 10, 12, and 15# = never broken off a fish

 

I'd retest again, but I trashed all the remaining FloroClear I had, so I lost that option 

 

Seaguar (Tatsu, InvizX) and Toray...Very little interest in playing around with any more fluoro brands at this point in my fishing life because those two are so good 

I've also done this same real life testing. Lots of heartache, lots of swearing and regret. Certainly a strong case for "You get what you pay for". 

[Jason Penn]

i'm gonna have to bite the bullet & try tatsu. i've tried braid on spinning multiple times, and i just don't care for it

[Bluebasser86]

6 hours ago, Jason Penn said:

i'm gonna have to bite the bullet & try tatsu. i've tried braid on spinning multiple times, and i just don't care for it

Seaguar Finesse Fluoro is basically Tatsu and fishes excellent on spinning gear. Would be worth checking out as well. It's even on sale right now on TW. 

[NorthernBasser]

How is the stretch on Tasu? I thought I read once that it has more stretch than most fluoro lines.

[CountryboyinDC]

I've never bought it, but once was given 20' or so of Tatsu.  It was a sort of straw color, rather than clear.  After that, everytime I'd see line that color, I'd look at the tackle and sure enough it would be a tackle geek with heavy JDM reels, etc.  I saw some on a spool at a recent fishing event and now it's clear too!  Has the line changed?  That would be a shame, I could tell from the small piece of leader this was the most manageable FC I'd  ever tried, and would probably do wonders for folks who fill their whole spool with the stuff.

[roadwarrior]

Hmm...

 

The line is perfectly clear, not yellow.

[CountryboyinDC]

6 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

Hmm...

 

The line is perfectly clear, not yellow.

I had to get some help from Google to make sure all those bumps to my head hadn't made me remember wrong.  I came across a site called Tackle Tour, and their review mentions that it used to be 'natural color, a very subtle amber/yellow kind of tint.'  It's been a number of years since I first came across it, so maybe that's been changed for a while.

[hawgenvy]

The very first time I used Tatsu I had a backlash so bad I had to cut it all out. It was my fault: new line, probably overfilled the spool, probably wasn't paying attention. But it kind of freaked me out and I decided not to use the stuff ever again because it is so expensive. It just gives you something to worry about when you're out there besides catching fish. I'm happy with InvsX as well as AbrazX, though I never go below #10.

 

Another issue is stretch. People keep saying that fluorocarbon has less stretch than mono. Are we sure that's the case? Are there testing statistics that back up that claim? Personally, I can't tell the difference (as far as stretch).

[Jason Penn]

i have no way of measuring stretch in line, but it seems that the "no stretch" thing with fc has been disproven.

 

the reason i like using fc is because i feel it keeps me in contact with the bait better. i think it essentially does for me what everyone else feels with braid. everytime i read people talking about how sensitive braid is i think "what is wrong with me?" on slack line lures, braid feels dead to me, but fc transmits everything. i've come to the conclusion that i just fish too slow, and fc makes up the difference.

 

i tried to fish braid with crankbait 1 time. it was on an old green handle daiwa tds composite rod, and it bout rattled me teeth out of my head!!

[RichF]

If any mods wanna give out sample spools, I'd certainly give it a try;) That pricetag is just outrageous. I don't have any issues with Trilene 100%, Pline Tactical, or Sniper.  Those suckers are always bogo or half off in the spring which seals the deal for me.

[omgbbq]

On 5/2/2019 at 9:10 AM, roadwarrior said:

For baitcasters I recommend #12 or #15. Spinning tackle, #6.

 

What's the rationale for using a lower lb test line on Spinning reels vs Casting reels? I've seen this mentioned in a few places. Thanks!

[Heartland]

1 hour ago, omgbbq said:

What's the rationale for using a lower lb test line on Spinning reels vs Casting reels? I've seen this mentioned in a few places. Thanks!

The heavier it gets the stiffer it gets.