teamfyss Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 I recently just got into baitcasters and picked up a Daiwa Fuego CT. I actually really like the reel, once I got the hang of it I didn't want to pick up my spinning gear again. But my question is, if I'm comfortable with the magforce system should I stick with it? Or will a centrifugal be relatively similar.. I'd like to branch out and try other brands but for some reason I have the idea that I'll be taking a step backwards with any other system. And believe me I know the Fuego is a very budget friendly, entry level reel. Reason I ask is I'm looking at the Diawa CR80 as its light and small, but has the old school brakes. As a lot of other companies do too. Thanks! Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted April 17, 2019 Super User Posted April 17, 2019 It never hurts to try both braking styles and see which works best for you. With very little research online at all, you'll quickly see that Diawa and Shimano are the two top names in baitcasting reels. Coincidentally enough, Diawa is known for their magnetic braking system and Shimano is known for their centrifugal braking system. If you have the cash, I certainly suggest branching out and seeing what works best for you now that you've got the hang of using a casting reel. 2 Quote
teamfyss Posted April 17, 2019 Author Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, fishballer06 said: With very little research online at all, you'll quickly see that Diawa and Shimano are the two top names in baitcasting reels. Coincidentally enough, Diawa is known for their magnetic braking system and Shimano is known for their centrifugal braking system. That's exactly it haha, I guess I'm just being a bit biased since I'm having luck with the Daiwa. I'll have to give shimanos different styles a fair chance. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted April 17, 2019 Super User Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, teamfyss said: That's exactly it haha, I guess I'm just being a bit biased since I'm having luck with the Daiwa. I'll have to give shimanos different styles a fair chance. Use whatever brand fits your style. I'm partial to Shimano myself, but I do have a few Diawa's in my lineup because there are times and places where they're better suited for certain presentations. If you are looking at the CR80 and you want to maybe try a Shimano with centrifugal braking, the SLX comes highly recommended. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted April 17, 2019 Super User Posted April 17, 2019 I've sold off all but 2 of my reels that aren't Daiwa or Shimano. I just feel like they are higher quality, innovative and I appreciate the fact that they are the only companies who design and produce their own reels. I am more partial to Daiwa, mainly due to their braking systems, but Shimano makes great stuff too. Both are easy to use once you get accustom to them. Try out a Shimano and see what you think. The SLX would be a good comparison to the Fuego you already have. The Citica would be the next step up and then the Curado. If you decide to get another Daiwa check out one of the Tatulas and the T-Wing system. 3 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted April 17, 2019 Super User Posted April 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said: Stay away from the CR80. From my understanding, the CR80 is outsourced (IE. not designed by Diawa). Correct? 3 Quote
Junger Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, fishballer06 said: From my understanding, the CR80 is outsourced (IE. not designed by Diawa). Correct? Yes, it's a Doyo reel. I like the Curado body over the CT style bodies. On my rods where they're dedicated and I'm not changing out lure sizes/weights much, I prefer the CuradoK. But if it's a rod where I switch lures a lot, like my all around rod that I use 1/8oz to 1/2oz lures, I prefer Daiwa Magforce Z reels where all the adjustments are external. Furthermore, I prefer a Daiwa SV reel for my jig rod, where sometimes I'm skipping, pitching, or rollcasting. I adjust the brakes differently for those and the Daiwa best suits me for that. So short answer, try both centrifugal and magnetics and see which one suits you best. 1 Quote
teamfyss Posted April 17, 2019 Author Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, fishballer06 said: If you are looking at the CR80 and you want to maybe try a Shimano with centrifugal braking, the SLX comes highly recommended. I’m extremely interested in the SLX, I’ve only been able to play with a right hand retrieve but I know they do offer lefty, which I prefer. 1 hour ago, Junger said: Yes, it's a Doyo reel. I like the Curado body over the CT style bodies. On my rods where they're dedicated and I'm not changing out lure sizes/weights much, I prefer the CuradoK. But if it's a rod where I switch lures a lot, like my all around rod that I use 1/8oz to 1/2oz lures, I prefer Daiwa Magforce Z reels where all the adjustments are external. Furthermore, I prefer a Daiwa SV reel for my jig rod, where sometimes I'm skipping, pitching, or rollcasting. I adjust the brakes differently for those and the Daiwa best suits me for that. So short answer, try both centrifugal and magnetics and see which one suits you best. That’s another issue I have, I don’t exactly know which reel fits each type of fishing I do best. Maybe that’s why I’m so fond of the magforce Z because this reel is my all around baitcaster at the moment. And I’m definitely changing baits up a lot. Also, what makes the SV better in certain areas than a CT? Quote
CroakHunter Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, BaitFinesse said: Stay away from the CR80. It doesn't have the Magforce Z like the Fuego. I ordered one but havent used it, are they bad? 1 Quote
Junger Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, teamfyss said: Also, what makes the SV better in certain areas than a CT? Better spool control, it throws lighter baits, skips/pitches better. Very noticeable difference between a CT spool and SV spool imo. And then there's even variations between SV spools as well...mind numbing. There are some SV gurus on this forum that can probably explain the exact reason better than I can. 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted April 18, 2019 Super User Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, CroakHunter said: I ordered one but havent used it, are they bad? I haven't tried the CR80 so I can't speak to it's quality, but the fact that the Fuego has the mag-force system already makes it a better reel IMO, and you can find them on Ebay brand new for less than the CR80 retails at any day of the week. 2 Quote
microotter Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 Is the tatula sv the least expensive sv reel? Quote
Joshua van Wyk Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 4 hours ago, teamfyss said: I’m extremely interested in the SLX, I’ve only been able to play with a right hand retrieve but I know they do offer lefty, which I prefer. That’s another issue I have, I don’t exactly know which reel fits each type of fishing I do best. Maybe that’s why I’m so fond of the magforce Z because this reel is my all around baitcaster at the moment. And I’m definitely changing baits up a lot. Also, what makes the SV better in certain areas than a CT? If you're looking at the Slx I'd check out the Slx combo at American legacy fishing. Its $140 and if you sign up for their newsletter you can get it for $126 which is a heck of a deal if you dont already have a rod you want to put it on. 1 Quote
Junger Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, microotter said: Is the tatula sv the least expensive sv reel? Yes, however you can get them at TackleTrap for about $160 with their 10% off code, along with a free Daiwa Huk shirt promotion. Or, you can buy them used in good/great condition around $120. Some very good discussions about Magforce Z: 1 Quote
teamfyss Posted April 18, 2019 Author Posted April 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Joshua van Wyk said: If you're looking at the Slx I'd check out the Slx combo at American legacy fishing. Its $140 and if you sign up for their newsletter you can get it for $126 which is a heck of a deal if you dont already have a rod you want to put it on. That is a great deal.. I already have a Dobyns waiting for a reel. But at that price I’d be trying out the reel and getting the rod for $26. Any reviews on the rod? The only option left on American legacy is 7’ 2” heavy. I do need a real heavy stick.. will this work? My dobyns fury 704 isn’t as heavy as I had thought so it’s now an all around texas rig/jig rod. Quote
Joshua van Wyk Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, teamfyss said: That is a great deal.. I already have a Dobyns waiting for a reel. But at that price I’d be trying out the reel and getting the rod for $26. Any reviews on the rod? The only option left on American legacy is 7’ 2” heavy. I do need a real heavy stick.. will this work? My dobyns fury 704 isn’t as heavy as I had thought so it’s now an all around texas rig/jig rod. The 7'2 heavy should work great for frogging and heavier jigs. I will likely pick one up later in the year. Quote
EGbassing Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 4:32 PM, teamfyss said: I’m extremely interested in the SLX, I’ve only been able to play with a right hand retrieve but I know they do offer lefty, which I prefer. I bought the SLX a couple months ago and it's a great reel. It's also veeery low profile. Quote
teamfyss Posted April 19, 2019 Author Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, EGbassing said: I bought the SLX a couple months ago and it's a great reel. It's also veeery low profile. Just ordered the combo today ? I’m excited to try it out 3 Quote
EGbassing Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, teamfyss said: Just ordered the combo today ? I’m excited to try it out You won't be disappointed. Good luck! ? Quote
CrankFate Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 The only way to find the right one is trial and error. You have to buy them and hope they do what you need them for. If they don’t do it, they’ll usually cover another application. IMO, this is how “technique specific” became a thing. 1 Quote
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