Ksam1234 Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 So I have been looking all winter for my first true higher end rod. I own a dobyns fury, irod genesis and a g loomis e6x. Lower end stuff I guess. I have been researching as much as I can and would like to know good opinions on a higher end rod. I have it narrowed down to either ALX Zolo series , Kistler KLX , Shimano expride or the Shimano Zodias, Daiwa tatula elite series. I am going to use it for an all around rod. 7 ft to 7 ft 5 MH/F action. Mainly for jigs, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits and T rigs.. if anyone has good and bad of each. I know a lot comes down to “personal belief” but there has to be one great rod between these. Quote
Glaucus Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 There is no real world in which a Fury or E6X is low end; they're just not high end by some standards. I have an "all around" E6X and 5 Fury rods (which are new) and they're great. I have some regular Tatula rods which I really enjoy. They're not Elite Series so I can't comment on that and this probably therefore isn't any help at all, but anything Tatula has been solid to me. 2 Quote
BoatSquirrel Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 If one is going to drop a few hundred on a rod, why buy an all around anything? Spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and jigs/txrigs all require different weights and actions. Pick one technique and get the best for that specific discipline. And Glacus, you are absolutely spot-on. Nothing made by the companies mentioned could ever be labeled correctly as lower end. Quote
Ksam1234 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Posted April 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, BoatSquirrel said: If one is going to drop a few hundred on a rod, why buy an all around anything? Spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and jigs/txrigs all require different weights and actions. Pick one technique and get the best for that specific discipline. And Glacus, you are absolutely spot-on. Nothing made by the companies mentioned could ever be labeled correctly as lower end. Well a MH/F rod is good for all the techniques I listed. I use 3/8 up to 3/4 oz jigs , t rigs , spinnerbaits etc as I mentioned. I wouldn’t use a different rod for all those. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted April 3, 2019 Super User Posted April 3, 2019 Kistler is running a 21% sale right now. You can't go wrong with a Gary Loomis North Fork blank. 2 Quote
SJex Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 I would grab a MH Kistler Helium 3 when they go on sale. I purchased 2 H3 and have been super impressed with both rods (I own 7'M and a 7'1" MH). 1 Quote
Junger Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 I recently picked up a Tatula Elite AGS 7' M/MH XF (TAEL701MMHXB-AGS)paired with a Zillion SV TW, and it is quickly becoming my favorite all around rod. I've been throwing everything from 1/2oz jigs to 1/16oz TRDs to 3/8oz chatterbaits to senkos (weightless, wacky, T-rigged). It's rated 1/8oz to 1oz, and really does have that range with the SV reel. I have a MB Orochi XX EMTF G1, and GLX 844C MBR, and the sensitivity is very much on par with those two. 2 1 Quote
RichF Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 I have a couple Zodias' and a couple KLXs. Both are awesome. The Zodias is obviously way cooler looking. Mine are MH (6'10 and 7'2). They're light and crisp. Of the baits you listed, the only one I wouldn't throw on them would be a 3/4 oz jig. Not because it couldn't handle it, I just prefer something heavier. The non-Feel N Reel KLX I have is 7'0 heavy but I find it about on par with the MH Zodias in terms of power. 1 Quote
evilcatfish Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 Are you open to considering other options than those listed? If so, do consider a Megabass Diablo Spec R, 199-299 depending which series you choose. Probably the most versatile rod I've ever owned, perfect for swim jigs, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits and jigs/trigs under 1/2oz. Also handles 1/2-1oz topwater, jerkbaits, and squarebills very well. Otherwise, all the options you mentioned are solid choices 1 Quote
Patrickcatalano Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 There’s always St Croix if you want high end. I have the legend tournement and the avid X. If you are looking for an all around rod, there’s a company called G-Rods that make rods out of graphene. I have one and love it, it’s extremely sensitive and worth every penny. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted April 3, 2019 Super User Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said: Kistler is running a 21% sale right now. You can't go wrong with a Gary Loomis North Fork blank. I can't agree with this more. I have 2 H3's and a couple of customs on NFC blanks, excellent rods. Also American made if that's important to you. 1 Quote
The Maestro Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 I don't know how much of a hurry you're in but the new Shimano Poison Adrenas are looking really nice. These will be the type of rod that will retain much of it's value should you decide to sell it down the road for whatever reason. Quote
Ksam1234 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Posted April 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, The Maestro said: I don't know how much of a hurry you're in but the new Shimano Poison Adrenas are looking really nice. These will be the type of rod that will retain much of it's value should you decide to sell it down the road for whatever reason. Wow those look amazing ! A little pricey though .. was trying to stick between 200-300$ but wow!! Those things look amazing ! 2 Quote
punch Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 If you want a great all-around rod the 7'2 MH Expride is a special stick. Good luck finding one in stock though. 1 Quote
Ksam1234 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, punch said: If you want a great all-around rod the 7'2 MH Expride is a special stick. Good luck finding one in stock though. Why are they always out!! Must be good Quote
NathanDLTH Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Junger said: I recently picked up a Tatula Elite AGS 7' M/MH XF (TAEL701MMHXB-AGS)paired with a Zillion SV TW, and it is quickly becoming my favorite all around rod. I've been throwing everything from 1/2oz jigs to 1/16oz TRDs to 3/8oz chatterbaits to senkos (weightless, wacky, T-rigged). It's rated 1/8oz to 1oz, and really does have that range with the SV reel. I have a MB Orochi XX EMTF G1, and GLX 844C MBR, and the sensitivity is very much on par with those two. This. I own this exact combo and it's great! 1 Quote
Matt_3479 Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 Out of the list I would be leaning towards the kistler and the expride. The 7’2” medium-heavy expride would be a wicked all round rod. Light, powerful and sensitive! Feel great in the hand. If I was going kistler I’d lean more towards the helium 3. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 3, 2019 Super User Posted April 3, 2019 Go with the G. Loomis high end rods. You will not be sorry in the long run. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted April 3, 2019 Super User Posted April 3, 2019 If I had to do it all over again and pick my first higher end rod, I would pick the same rod..... G. Loomis 783C GLX. I have yet to find its equal. Quote
d-camarena Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 You mean to tell me my aird-x arent high end? Quote
Ksam1234 Posted April 4, 2019 Author Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt_3479 said: Out of the list I would be leaning towards the kistler and the expride. The 7’2” medium-heavy expride would be a wicked all round rod. Light, powerful and sensitive! Feel great in the hand. If I was going kistler I’d lean more towards the helium 3. To bad nobody has it in stock!! Quote
Matt_3479 Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ksam1234 said: To bad nobody has it in stock!! Haha I keep forgetting that. In Canada the exprides are hard to find in general but super easy to order. And the stores that normally have them always have them in stock! To be 100% honest I would consider stepping up a hair more and going to a glx 843mbr. Just super versatile. I love the glx’s!! Quote
Ksam1234 Posted April 4, 2019 Author Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt_3479 said: Haha I keep forgetting that. In Canada the exprides are hard to find in general but super easy to order. And the stores that normally have them always have them in stock! To be 100% honest I would consider stepping up a hair more and going to a glx 843mbr. Just super versatile. I love the glx’s!! Yeah I would love to but idk. 200-300$ is about max I wanna spend. I did like that Shimano poison adrenA though ! Looks amazing Quote
punch Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Ksam1234 said: Yeah I would love to but idk. 200-300$ is about max I wanna spend. I did like that Shimano poison adrenA though ! Looks amazing I held one at a local sports show and they are ridiculously light. They will be good sellers once they are in stock. The problem with buying your first high end rod, is it wont be your last. 1 1 Quote
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