cast distance

[Heartland]

24 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

You’re adding a good 10-20 yards on the water to any field numbers. That would explain @Catt saying he hit a 75 yard target.

 

 

https://youtu.be/cZj0Wrtlmrk

Just a couple of thoughts, 75 yards is 225 ft, hitting a target.....         What method did you use to arrive at the numbers in the quoted statement?

[new2BC4bass]

45 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

You’re adding a good 10-20 yards on the water to any field numbers. That would explain @Catt saying he hit a 75 yard target.

 

Apparently you aren't fully reading Catt's posts.  I don't see where you are getting the idea his practicing is at water targets.  The last post even says they are set on a football field with a judge standing at each target.  Sounds to me like he is talking about formal competitions.  Just because you and I can't hit a 75 yard target doesn't mean no one else can.

 

[Flatrock]

I'm impressed, 4 pages on what I thought was silly question..   However with all the claims being made, some questionable..  One has to ask, what are you casting and what reel and line are you using..?

 

I say/ask this cause I can throw a practice 3/8oz weight on my Lews and be fairly accurate on a calm day, then tie onto a 3/8oz  rattle trap and get nowhere near the distance on a breezy day.   Also wouldn't the design of the reel have a lot to do with the ability to cast further ?   I mean your higher end reels have better mechanics allowing further casting without fear of back lashing where as you lower ends models just won't allow it.  So in all fairness, I can see further distance with a 1/2oz over a 3/8oz, but at the same time I can see better performance with a higher quality reel...  Am I making sense here ?

[redmeansdistortion]

14 minutes ago, Flatrock said:

Also wouldn't the design of the reel have a lot to do with the ability to cast further ?   I mean your higher end reels have better mechanics allowing further casting without fear of back lashing where as you lower ends models just won't allow it.

The big determining factor in my opinion, is synchronized vs non synchronized level wind.  A non synchronized, or disengaging level wind as it's also called, will outcast one with a sychronized level wind and will also be better suited to throwing lighter baits.  A synchronized level wind always moves; during casting, during retrieval, or when a fish is pulling drag.  With disengaging, the level wind only moves during the retrieve and stays stationary during a cast.  There is less moving parts when casting, and therefor less mass to move which results in increased distance.  There aren't many synchronized level wind reels on the market now aside from the Abu Ambassadeur.  Those reels really struggle throwing anything under 1/2oz for the uninitiated.  I can throw 1/4oz baits with my 4000 sized reels, but I really have to be on top of my thumb game to do such things.  My comment is more a generalization as there are some reels with a synchronized level wind that can really put it out there, like the Abu 1500C and 2500C for instance.

[Tennessee Boy]

11 minutes ago, Flatrock said:

So in all fairness, I can see further distance with a 1/2oz over a 3/8oz, but at the same time I can see better performance with a higher quality reel...  Am I making sense here ?

Like I said in my earlier post,  I can get more than twice the distance with my 20+ year old Diawa than I can with a new Diawa Zillion on identical rods, line and weight.  I think the Zillion is designed to limit backlash at the expense of casting distance.   The Zillion’s brakes drive me crazy casting a heavy Carolina rig but are fine pitching a jig.  It’s clearly the brakes that are the problem.  It may not be the quality of the reel that determines casting distance but the way it’s designed.  

[Tennessee Boy]

11 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said:

Have you tried loosening the spool tension to the point of having a tiny bit of side to side play?  The Zillion SV TW spool is considered a pretty good caster.  It can outcast the Tatula SV and I can cast all the 50# braid off my Tatula SV with a Terminator Walking Frog. 

 

You also might want to remove the spool and make sure the spool inductor extends and retracts freely and that it does not stick in the extended position.  Also verify that the ring magnet turns when the mag dial is turned and that the magnet hasn't become unglued from the side plate.  Worse case scenario you can send it into the Tackle Trap for repair.  

 

 

I have the spool tension extremely loose.  I can tell that changing the brakes does affect the cast.   I haven’t checked the other things you mentioned.  I’ve decided the reel is not for me and have moved on.  

[CrankFate]

1 hour ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Like I said in my earlier post,  I can get more than twice the distance with my 20+ year old Diawa than I can with a new Diawa Zillion on identical rods, line and weight.  I think the Zillion is designed to limit backlash at the expense of casting distance.   The Zillion’s brakes drive me crazy casting a heavy Carolina rig but are fine pitching a jig.  It’s clearly the brakes that are the problem.  It may not be the quality of the reel that determines casting distance but the way it’s designed.  

Everything is !!! Especially with magnets !!!

[Catt]

I know I'm a dumb Coonass so maybe someone can show me where Van Dam or Reese stated 50 yds was as far as they could possibly cast.

 

They both implied 50 yds under normal fishing conditions is considered a long cast which happens to be what I said (I think it was on page 2).

 

I also stated my best ever at 75 yds was 3 out of 10 cast but 1 out of 10 is normal.

 

We practice this course running through it 3 or 4 times a day for a couple weeks prior to competition. 80% of the time we concentrate on the short course (30-40) because if it's windy you'll never need the 50-75 yd range.

 

I've also use the short course with large targets and shorter distances to teach bait casting to newbie's. It's cheap, easy to setup and they can practice daily.

 

One of our archery buddies came up with the idea ?

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

13 hours ago, Team9nine said:

Yep - Skeet did a video a while back on casting distance and that was about the furthest he could get too, if I remember correctly (50-52 yds). 

 

If its the one on a grass field he was throwing 1 oz crankbait 62 yards.

 

This thread post here

 

[jbsoonerfan]

@Catt I believe you. But 110 yards is a stretch. I would guess my best cast is 50 yards. I thought the thread was about casting distance with normal bass fishing gear and now we have world record casts posted.

[PhishLI]

Watch the 1st 6 minutes if you dare. BTW, because he has been mentioned in this thread, The Reel Test uses 6'8" medium rods, primarily, which limits his distance.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm4XyKf9J3U

[Further North]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

I know I'm a dumb Coonass so maybe someone can show me where Van Dam or Reese stated 50 yds was as far as they could possibly cast.

 

They both implied 50 yds under normal fishing conditions is considered a long cast which happens to be what I said (I think it was on page 2).

 

I also stated my best ever at 75 yds was 3 out of 10 cast but 1 out of 10 is normal.

 

We practice this course running through it 3 or 4 times a day for a couple weeks prior to competition. 80% of the time we concentrate on the short course (30-40) because if it's windy you'll never need the 50-75 yd range.

 

I've also use the short course with large targets and shorter distances to teach bait casting to newbie's. It's cheap, easy to setup and they can practice daily.

 

One of our archery buddies came up with the idea ?

Don't be usin' logic and objective evaluation on an emotional subject.

 

People can't handle that...

[Further North]

1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

Watch the 1st 6 minutes if you dare. BTW, because he has been mentioned in this thread, The Reel Test uses 6'8" medium rods, primarily, which limits his distance.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm4XyKf9J3U

Cheese and rice...I had a 1974 Plymouth Duster with a three speed slushbox and a 225 CI POS engine that sounded better that that...

 

Just sayin'...

[Heartland]

Back in 82, I could cast a crankbait a 1/4 mile.   How much you want to bet I can cast a crankbait over those mountains.

 

Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers.

 

 

[Catt]

8 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

@Catt I believe you. But 110 yards is a stretch

 

I miss something?  ?

 

[Team9nine]

9 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

 

If its the one on a grass field he was throwing 1 oz crankbait 62 yards.

 

This thread post here

 

I was close  knew the video had been taken down, and I didn’t see the actual distance mentioned in the thread, but the two’s match up with what I remembered so we’ll go with it ?

[jbsoonerfan]

2 hours ago, Catt said:

 

I miss something?  ?

 

You didn't claim to cast 110 yards, someone else did. I'm trying real hard to stay out of trouble though. LOL

[Catt]

8 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

You didn't claim to cast 110 yards, someone else did. I'm trying real hard to stay out of trouble though. LOL

 

You're a Sooners fan how ya gonna stay out trouble!

[jbsoonerfan]

Just now, Catt said:

 

You're a Sooners fan how ya gonna stay out trouble!

It follows me.

[Tennessee Boy]

Let me say this about my 110 yard casting distance claim.  I didn't measure the cast, I just base the distance on an estimate of the amount of line on the reel.  I'm an old guy and rest assured, if I can do it you probably could to using the reel I was using.   What you are throwing makes a huge difference.   It's not hard to throw all the line out on my old Diawas with 3/4 egg sinker.  I cannot get anywhere close to that distance with a 3/4 rattle trap.  THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THIS.  I CAN CAST TWICE AS FAR WITH MY LONGEST CASTING REEL AS I CAN WITH MY SHORTEST CASTING REEL.  THE REEL YOU ARE USING MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.  USING A MODERN REEL WITH ALL THE BRAKING MAY GREATLY LIMIT YOUR CASTING DISTANCE.  IF YOU CAN ONLY CAST 50 YARDS, IT MAY BE YOUR REEL NOT YOU. ?

[Jleebesaw]

On 4/3/2019 at 11:36 AM, Catt said:

 

How would you fish structure in 25' of water where there's no specific target other that the structure itself?

That's something I do a lot of. I drop a marker bouy and then cast by it from a little way off. Maybe 30 or 40 feet away. Thats if I'm using a jig, tube, or something like that. Sometimes I'll literally get right on top of it and use a dropshot or jigging spoon. I can watch it on my fish finder doing it that way.

[Catt]

@Tennessee Boy I absolutely agree older reels will undoubtedly out cast newer reels!

 

In the competition listed above I'm using a Calcutta 100A (2 bearing + 1 bushing) spooled with Berkley Big Game 15# test, a 1/4 oz bullet weight, 3/0 straight shank hook, & a 7 1/2" worm. My rod is a Shimano Crucial 6' 10" MH Extra fast. Once I move up to 50-75 yds it's 1/2 to 3/4 oz bullet weight.

 

Shimano listed line capacity is 110 yds of 14# monofilament on this reel. With a 3/4 oz Johnson Silver Minnow & an Uncle Josh #11 Pork Frog on an 8' rod I can almost spool it. How much line is left I don't know but I can see the spool beneath the line.

 

The Johnson spoon will catch air and sail on you so forget accuracy!

[Mobasser]

My old 5500c will cast furthur than any other reel.I have. 

[Heartland]

On 4/3/2019 at 10:36 AM, Catt said:

 

How would you fish structure in 25' of water where there's no specific target other that the structure itself?

Troll it

[Flatrock]

I have a even better claim... I have a guy that wants to give me money for my Fishdrops BC reel, wants it badly for some strange reason.