Pros purposefully misleading about their sponsors baits?

[Glenn]

1 hour ago, Spankey said:

do you honestly think scott martin want's to use favorite fishing rods and googan baits?

He's an investor in both companies. So...yes.

[NYWayfarer]

4 minutes ago, Glenn said:

He's an investor in both companies. So...yes.

Even got his dear old Dad, Roland using them.

 

Roland drops YouTube videos every Wednesday and Sunday.

[Glaucus]

A lot of those Favorite rods are gimmicky. 

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Favorite_Casting_Rods/catpage-FAVEC.html

[MN Fisher]

On 3/7/2019 at 12:28 PM, Glaucus said:

A lot of those Favorite rods are gimmicky. 

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Favorite_Casting_Rods/catpage-FAVEC.html

My question is - two rods of the same model but one has a Pro's name attached for an extra charge...is there a functional difference between them or are you just paying for a name?

[Glaucus]

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

My question is - two rods of the same model but one has a Pro's name attached for an extra charge...is there a functional difference between them or are you just paying for a name?

I don't use them so I'm not sure. I'd bet that you're paying for your YouTube hero's name. 

[MN Fisher]

4 minutes ago, Glaucus said:

I don't use them so I'm not sure. I'd bet that you're paying for your YouTube hero's name. 

Well, since the main YouTube channel I watch for Bass Fishing information is BR's own...when's @Glenngetting his own line of rods and reels?

[Spankey]

2 hours ago, Glaucus said:

You should have seen the video Lake Fork Guy dropped the other day. He went to Florida for a wedding and only brought a spinning reel with him. He went to the store and got a cheap rod to pair it up with to fish on his last day with 3 hours to go before his flight home. The reel juuuuuust happened to be the Googan reel off their $60 combo. He was putting it on display HARD lol. He made sure every shot showed the Googan branding on it. 

 

The thing sounded like an ancient coffee grinder. It was so bad and so obvious that he got blasted in the comments. I've never heard a new reel sound so bad.

 

But the plastics are good. 

Yeah, I’m not gonna be blasting anyone or really products too much on here. I just do my own thing but we all can smell something BS sometime. 

[Glaucus]

6 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Well, since the main YouTube channel I watch for Bass Fishing information is BR's own...when's @Glenngetting his own line of rods and reels?

To be clear I didn't literally mean your as in you. Those sticks with names on them are YouTube fisherman. They got on the scene early, gathered hundreds of thousands of even a million plus subscribers, started making unimaginable money off their channels, got together over the years, and now they're the Googan Squad.

 

That's why I call them gimmicky. Making rods to bear the names of YouTube stars. Also baseball rods. It's like getting an expensive Spiderman rod LOL

 

Those guys have a cult following and they're taking advantage of it. I mean I would too. 

[fishballer06]

On 3/7/2019 at 12:28 PM, Glaucus said:

A lot of those Favorite rods are gimmicky. 

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Favorite_Casting_Rods/catpage-FAVEC.html

I've never even looked at the price of their rods, but I clicked that link and saw a $350 model. I wonder how many people are buying this stick over the likes of a Megabass, GLoomis, St. Croix, or Dobyns in that price range. 

[Glaucus]

1 minute ago, fishballer06 said:

I've never even looked at the price of their rods, but I clicked that link and saw a $350 model. I wonder how many people are buying this stick over the likes of a Megabass, GLoomis, St. Croix, or Dobyns in that price range. 

Young people who grew up on watching Jon B, LFG, Peric, Lunkers TV etc. They taught a lot of people how to fish before they became a business. 

[NYWayfarer]

16 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

My question is - two rods of the same model but one has a Pro's name attached for an extra charge...is there a functional difference between them or are you just paying for a name?

I'd hardly call the Googan Squad pros

 

They are the same rod just different color schemes and the squad members name on them.

3 minutes ago, Glaucus said:

That's why I call them gimmicky. Making rods to bear the names of YouTube stars. Also baseball rods. It's like getting an expensive Spiderman rod LOL

Don't forget their KISS rod! Funny but I can't picture Gene Simmons fishing.

[Spankey]

49 minutes ago, Glenn said:

He's an investor in both companies. So...yes.

Dude that’s not my quote. Just happened to agree with it. No big deal. I really do care all that much what Scott Martian pushes or anyone else. Most guys here I would think are not soft a puddy and can think for themselves. 

 

Everything I own is paid for by myself. I don’t have a boat full or garage full of freebies. 

[Vilas15]

2 hours ago, Glaucus said:

The thing sounded like an ancient coffee grinder. It was so bad and so obvious that he got blasted in the comments. I've never heard a new reel sound so bad.

I checked it out thinking how bad can it be? ? I agree with one of the comments "sounds like it has gravel for bearings".

[GReb]

All of those YouTube stars are my age. I was in college when it exploded. Sucks that I was too busy drinking beer and chasing sorority girls around. Could of been rich!!

[MassYak85]

4 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

It's fine that it doesn't bother you, but don't try to rationalize it as being "business".  Business does not have to be lying to potential customers, one can be truthful & have ethics. 

 

You can run your business however you choose, but how truthful you are with your potential customers is a reflection of your ethics, not of how business's have to operate.

I'd agree. It's easy for people on this forum who have fished for a while to shrug off "brand pushing" because they know the brand of lure is rarely the deciding factor in catching a fish. The issue is the people who are getting into the sport and don't know better and will buy exactly what a professional tells them to buy. 

[Glaucus]

17 minutes ago, GReb said:

All of those YouTube stars are my age. I was in college when it exploded. Sucks that I was too busy drinking beer and chasing sorority girls around. Could of been rich!!

Right?! I learned from reading and somehow I ended up on YouTube to see how things were done. I didn't catch on that it was a big thing until far too late. Now there are many far better channels with far better fisherman with far better personalities and they don't have a fraction of the following because it's essentially owned by these stars. It's almost impossible for a new channel to take off. Ndyakangler has some of the best content in my opinion. He's been at it for like 5 years but sits at 20k subscribers while Jon B and Lunkers sit at 1 million. 

To their credit they try to help other channels take off but it just doesn't work. 

[soflabasser]

It is a well known fact that many in the bass fishing industry are deceitful when it comes to what products they recommend. They will say they caught a bass on their sponsors overpriced lure when in reality they caught that bass on an established, better priced, older brand like Rapala, Zoom, and other lure companies that don't need to advertise themselves much. Same can be said for those fish with Shimano reels in tournaments yet advertise some other reel company since they are sponsored by that company. 

[MIbassyaker]

Is it wrong of me to sort of smugly enjoy the spectacle of humble, earnest fishermen discovering, to their distaste and dismay, that the fishing industry is.........an industry?

 

I mean ethics are great and all, but there's product to move.

[12poundbass]

15 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

Is it wrong of me to sort of smugly enjoy the spectacle of humble, earnest fishermen discovering, to their distaste and dismay, that the fishing industry is.........an industry?

 

I mean ethics are great and all, but there's product to move.

You mean there is no magic lure that will catch fish all day every day? ?

[Glaucus]

15 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

Is it wrong of me to sort of smugly enjoy the spectacle of humble, earnest fishermen discovering, to their distaste and dismay, that the fishing industry is.........an industry?

 

I mean ethics are great and all, but there's product to move.

Our industry prides itself on ethics and morality, and being different than other sports and businesses. It's a people first industry. Well, that's the idea they give off, and for the most part that's true. That's the problem I think, but in the end it's the corporate elites being all about money.

[MIbassyaker]

2 minutes ago, 12poundbass said:

You mean there is no magic lure that will catch fish all day every day? ?

Of course there is!  Give me a second first to check my current list of sponsors, and I'll be happy to tell you what it is.

[WRB]

Before you condem a professional bass angler for promoting their sponsors put yourself in their shoes. Everyone of those pro's worked very hard to get where they are at by fishing tournaments and doing well enough to earn the sponsors backing. Do you think the pro is going to risk losing a top paying sponsor by being dishonest and losing all the sponsors. On the other hand every pro has pet lures they have confidence using that may no longer be a current sponsor they catch bass on, usually something no longer in production or something they have tricked out and don't disclose those lures, it's called competitive bass fishing.

Tom

 

[GReb]

4 minutes ago, Glaucus said:

Our industry prides itself on ethics and morality, and being different than other sports and businesses. It's a people first industry. Well, that's the idea they give off, and for the most part that's true. That's the problem I think, but in the end it's the corporate elites being all about money.

Derek Hubnall turned himself in for accidentally practicing within the 28 day period this week. Got DQ’d from the Hartwell tournament. So it’s not all lying, cheating, and stealing.

[MIbassyaker]

3 minutes ago, Glaucus said:

Our industry prides itself on ethics and morality, and being different than other sports and businesses. It's a people first industry. Well, that's the idea they give off, and for the most part that's true. That's the problem I think, but in the end it's the corporate elites being all about money.

 

That perception has been sold to you as well, right along with all the material stuff.  And it worked -- you bought it.

 

The fishing industry does not differ from any other industry on the planet in this regard.

[Glaucus]

4 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

 

That perception has been sold to you as well, right along with all the material stuff.  And it worked -- you bought it.

 

The fishing industry does not differ from any other industry on the planet in this regard.

It's still beautiful to me. ?