I tell y'all what!

[ResoKP]

lol I think we're all on the same page regarding Tatsu as being the best. Nobody is denying that.

 

I'm just surprised so many people use a super stretchy line like InvisX as their go-to line for JIGS that's all.

 

InvisX is a great line but for jigs? No way I'd ever spool it.

 

But I kind of get it. I'm sure there's someone out there that prefers XXH rod fishing a weightless senko and is better than all of us here so he swears by it since it's worked for him the past 200 years.

 

[J Francho]

Confirms what I always realize in these threads: line choice is very personal.  Often, one tiny positive, or worse, a tiny negative experience can define one's opinion about what is best.  So far, Seguar hasn't let me down.  Many others have.  Keep in mind, I was a all CXX person just a half decade ago, and shunned fluoro after early experiences.

[ResoKP]

Yea, line choice seems very personal. Also, I think waterbody conditions in each of our local zones play a big factor too.

 

Though, it seems like some people here are fishing swimming pools with 12lb fluoro if they're managing not to break off or retie so often fishing jigs...?

[J Francho]

28 minutes ago, microotter said:

Does it work well as leader? (8lb for spinning reel)

It will work fine, but 8# Blue Label will work better.

4 minutes ago, ResoKP said:

Though, it seems like some people here are fishing swimming pools with 12lb fluoro if they're managing not to break off or retie so often fishing jigs...?

Lakes Erie and Ontario are pretty big swimming pools.  I'll use 12-20# fluoro fishing shallow in spring, depending on the cover.  Once the mats kick in, I use 50# braid.  If I'm fishing rock reefs or rip rap, back to fluoro.  Zebra mussels slice through braid.

[Catt]

55 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Fact is, I can't settle on just one line as a general fluoro recommendation, though Invisx comes close, for the guys coming from Big Game, Yo-zuri, or some other popular line.  I'm not surprised @Catt likes it in 17 lb. size.

 

I haven't abandoned Big Game ?

 

All of the recommendation I did get for InvizX was for 20#.

 

My personal opinion on line stretch some how effecting your hookup ratio is over hyped!

 

The vast majority of my jig/worm fishing in done at depths of 15-25' in either grass or standing timber. My biggest concern is abrasion resistance not line stretch.

55 minutes ago, J Francho said:

 @Catt

 

That's pretty cool... don't double tap ?

Edited March 7, 2019 by Catt
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[J Francho]

11 minutes ago, Catt said:

My personal opinion on line stretch some how effecting your hookup ratio is over hyped!

Based on all the fish I caught using Trilene XL all those years, I agree.  I actually thought I was "high brow" using XL over Big Game, lol.

[GReb]

Saw some guy pulled a 14 pounder out of Toledo Bend in a tournament last weekend. @Catt  

[Boomstick]

InvizX is an all around good line. I'll be interested to hear your long term experience with it, especially as you're using it for a situation I'd probably go with AbrazX for instead.

 

I have also never been a believer that you absolutely have to have a low or no stretch line, but I've never caught a 10 pounder either.

[Catt]

6 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

InvizX is an all around good line. I'll be interested to hear your long term experience with it, especially as you're using it for a situation I'd probably go with AbrazX for instead.

 

I have also never been a believer that you absolutely have to have a low or no stretch line, but I've never caught a 10 pounder either.

 

When some anglers review a product they'll use it once or twice. I'll use InvizX for an entire year before passing judgement.

 

[J Francho]

We actually rely heavily on stretchy line for really big fish, with more fight than any bass, small or large jaw.  Cute little salmon I caught on 8# Suffix Siege:

 

[Boomstick]

4 minutes ago, J Francho said:

We actually rely heavily on stretchy line for really big fish, with more fight than any bass, small or large jaw.  Cute little salmon I caught on 8# Suffix Siege:

 

Good point. Mono is very common for saltwater fishing for the same reason. Nice salmon. Also good call on the Sufix Siege line, I've had great luck with it both in handling and holding up.

[GReb]

3 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

When some anglers review a product they'll use it once or twice. I'll use InvizX for an entire year before passing judgement.

 

My favorite is when people review products they haven’t even used once!

[ResoKP]

On 3/7/2019 at 11:03 AM, J Francho said:

We actually rely heavily on stretchy line for really big fish, with more fight than any bass, small or large jaw.  Cute little salmon I caught on 8# Suffix Siege:

 

But would you use #8 Sufix Siege fishing jigs in brush piles tho

 

I'm in Canada btw. we catch those salmons with 6# lines no problem lol. I've also caught them on 20# straight braid too ?‍♂️

 

I thought this thread was about jigs.. A jay posts a cool double digit catch video but i see no jigs in there and now we got salmons ?

[J Francho]

There's plenty of craggy rocks and fallen timber in the ditches I fish.  If one breaks off, so what, there 10,000 more to hook.  I already said I used 15-20# fluoro or braid for jigs.  Try and keep pace with the conversation.  My comment was about STRETCH, and that it's not necessarily a bad thing.  I doubt there are any DD bass in Canada, or NY for that matter.

[Team9nine]

I’ve been using InvizX for over 8 years now, and Tatsu for 3. If I HAVE to have abrasion resistance, I keep a couple spools of Toray Superhard Upgrade on hand. Otherwise, as someone else alluded to, my mantra is, the more I know, the less I throw. This goes for line variety, too. I have no interest in buying and fishing every single line in an effort to find “the best” for specific applications. Just me. I find what works well and stick with it.

 

Also not sold on the differences in stretch as a matter of practicality when talking mono and fluoro. So Sniper only stretches 19% while Tatsu stretches 22% and  InvizX stretches 25% for the same force applied. So what? At the end of a perfectly reasonable 80 ft cast, we’re still talking ~15’ of stretch in a best case scenario (Sniper). On a short line bite with say 10’ of line out, it’s the difference between almost 2’ of stretch vs 2.5’ of stretch. Who’s to say more stretch isn’t better in that case.

 

At reasonable fishing distances, line diameter is much more important in my mind. Since Sniper and InvizX are nearly identical, I’m sure both would perform equally well. 

[WRB]

Comparing FC line you need to factor in the line diameter and both Seaguar and Sunline are honest with diameters to lb test rating. The next factor is price per yard not price per filler spool size. 

Sunline Shooter FC is equal to Seagaur Tatsu in performance and was the FC I started using in the mid 90's. The Shooter filler spools were $35 for 300 meters, today it's $35 for 164 yards. Sunline Sniper was only available to 8 lb test when it came out as a finesse FC, now availble in a wide range of sizes. I would put Sniper in the same performance as InvisX.

When Shooter increased price Toray Hi Test Bass Solar Roam FC came out and was $35 for 200 yard spool and it's a good FC, now $33 for 82 yards. 

When Seaguar Tatsu came out at $40 for 200 yards I tried it and it is up there in performance with Shooter, Toray Hi Class. Seaguar hasn't change their yardage per spool and prices increases are reasonable.

Bottom contact lure is where FC excels, knot performance is where it falls short of mono or coploy line.

It will be interesting how Catt likes FC for night fishing.

Tom

[Mike L]

@Catt

If you will, keep us (if no one else is interested..me) updated of your experiences with it as we fish similar water. 

 

Interested in your real world opinion. 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Catt]

@ResoKP No sir this thread is about InvizX line. I just happened to put it on my jig rod because my worm rod has 15# Big Game & a Watermelon Neon Liz-zard on it...that aint changing.

 

@Mike L Dang sure will ?

 

[Djohn]

Invizx is great stuff just tie a good knot.

[Catt]

Three weeks of using InvizX

 

I can not say a whole lot about sensitivity because everything I've caught with it absolutely inhaled the lure.

 

Knot strength has been a non-issue.

 

There are two dislikes so far!

 

One is when working a jig or t-rig the line slapping against the eyes is very audible. I don't think it effects anything, just irritating to me.

 

Two is this line coils way worse than Big Game!

 

[Heartland]

Sherman, set the wayback machine to the year 2005....

[Mike L]

I've been using flouro for years and I can honestly say I've never noticed any amount of line slap, no matter the brand or strength. 

Are you using a spinning rod with it?

I wouldn't know as I don't use them. 

 

As far as the coils, some have an inordinate amount where others have far less. 

I use Sniper and Shooter and both have it with the Shooter having far more. 

I attribute that to its make up as it's far less subtle. 

 

I know you know this, but useing some L&L all around the spool instead of just in one spot and you won't have that problem. 

You can use it during the day also but just make sure it dried before casting again. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

 

[Jrob78]

Mike L is right, this is where KVD L&L is worth every penny. It really helps cut down that memory. I spray the spool really well the night before a trip.

[fishwizzard]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

 

One is when working a jig or t-rig the line slapping against the eyes is very audible. I don't think it effects anything, just irritating to me.

 

I feel that way about braid, the sound of it coming through guides is like a very minor version of “nails on a chalkboard” to me.  

[Catt]

@Mike L No sir don't own a spinning reel. I probably work a jig/t-rig more than most, everybody flips or pitches it a moves it once or twice.

 

I'm a little more aggressive ?