Spinnerbait mold options

[Bdnoble84]

I’m looking at do it spinnerbait molds on barlows tackle and am having a hard time deciding what i want. Im looking for something versitile, yet excels at burning through current. Ive always leaned toward type “h” style spinner baits for this application, but im not sure this is truely the most stable option or just what ive developed a comfort level with. I am looking for suggestions here.

[cadman]

I would definitely look at the Ultra-Minnow by Do-It. Slim profile and gives a lot of flash because of the flat sides of the body. If you want some better pricing on molds, check out Zeiners in Wichita, KS

[Bdnoble84]

7 hours ago, cadman said:

I would definitely look at the Ultra-Minnow by Do-It. Slim profile and gives a lot of flash because of the flat sides of the body. If you want some better pricing on molds, check out Zeiners in Wichita, KS

Thanks cadman. I had that in my cart and took it out. How does that one pour with the detailing? This is new water for me. Im at about 100$ with wire hooks and blades and hardware.  Have mustad 32608 hooks in the cart. These a good middle of the road option.

[Bdnoble84]

I looked at the zeiners web site and prices look comparable to barlows

[cadman]

As far as pourability (is that a word?) the mold pours fine no problem. If you are placing an order for items, I would definitely get a can of "Drop-Out" . It is a mold release and it works wonders. It also helps the lead flow freely and fill better.  Now detail on the Ultra-Minnow is fair. the reason I say this, is because you can get a mold that was cast really well and the detail is great, or you can get a mold that was cast ok and the detail is ok.  However you will get detail. As far as hooks go, the Mustad 32608 are really sharp hooks, they are worth there money.

I believe the Ultra-Minnow mold is cheaper at Zeiners, however I don't know what there other components cost. Good Luck

[Munkin]

I would like to add if you plan on making "burning baits" downsize the wire frame and blades. For example if you look at the spinnerbait frame chart it will recommend a certain size frame for say a 3/8oz bait. It will also recommend a #4 and 4.5 willow as the standard setup. Pour your baits on a 1/4oz frame and use 3.5 and 4 willows (same setup War Eagle uses on their screaming eagle baits. My spinnerbaits I make the same way but for a different reason as I need a small profile bait that doesn't roll in the river current.

 

Allen

[Bdnoble84]

Actually munkin, it sounds like we have similar needs in our spinnerbaits as 75% of my fishing is in current and i need a bait that wont roll. I have yet to place my order to barlows, hit a bit of a budget snag. Hopefully once i get our tax return this week or next i can find a couple extra bucks in there.

[Munkin]

Can you paint lead heads? I will look around this weekend and may hay some pre-poured heads I can send you.

 

Allen

[Bdnoble84]

On 3/26/2019 at 11:35 PM, Munkin said:

Can you paint lead heads? I will look around this weekend and may hay some pre-poured heads I can send you.

 

Allen

Yes i can, that would be awesome. 

[kelly1960]

On ‎3‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 7:21 PM, cadman said:

As far as pourability (is that a word?) the mold pours fine no problem. If you are placing an order for items, I would definitely get a can of "Drop-Out" . It is a mold release and it works wonders. It also helps the lead flow freely and fill better.  Now detail on the Ultra-Minnow is fair. the reason I say this, is because you can get a mold that was cast really well and the detail is great, or you can get a mold that was cast ok and the detail is ok.  However you will get detail. As far as hooks go, the Mustad 32608 are really sharp hooks, they are worth there money.

I believe the Ultra-Minnow mold is cheaper at Zeiners, however I don't know what there other components cost. Good Luck

Stop spending your money on expensive drop out mold release. Do-it molds recommends right in their instructions says to use a candle and smoke the molds.

I have been using this method for years and have never had a problem and a pack of candles is a lot cheaper then the stuff in a can. When you soot on your mold make sure you also do the side of the mold where you pour the lead.

Your lead will pour better and you will have a cleaner pour into the molds. I had a tackle company in Idaho but since moving to Michigan I have not had time to start it back up yet.

I have 28 molds and plan to add to them. I pour all winter so I have enough equipment for the summer and depending on how much I give away I don't have to worry about lures during the fishing season.

I believe do-it molds tells you how to smoke your molds but if not here. Hold the mold above the candle and keep moving it closer to the flame until it starts putting down a dark black layer of soot.

You will have to experiment with how close to hold the candles as I have found different candle makers candles start smoking at different distances. Use gloves as the mold will get warm and you will be able to use it right away.

Do-it molds recommends warming the molds before you start pouring lead or tin. I hope this helps and I recommend you at least try it and see how it works. I believe you will quit buying the expensive spray releases.

 

 

I also have some poured heads I can send you. They will be bullet heads. I like them for the way they come through weeds. I have heads up to an ounce. Do you have everything you need to finish of the spinnerbaits? Can you make buzzbaits?

I have some of those heads poured also if you would like to put a couple of them together. All I want in return is for you to tell others how well my lures work or write me a little testimony.

I don't know what sizes I have left but I will send you a couple of each just PM me and we can chat.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Kelly

[smalljaw67]

24 minutes ago, kelly1960 said:

Stop spending your money on expensive drop out mold release. Do-it molds recommends right in their instructions says to use a candle and smoke the molds.

I have been using this method for years and have never had a problem and a pack of candles is a lot cheaper then the stuff in a can. When you soot on your mold make sure you also do the side of the mold where you pour the lead.

Your lead will pour better and you will have a cleaner pour into the molds. I had a tackle company in Idaho but since moving to Michigan I have not had time to start it back up yet.

I have 28 molds and plan to add to them. I pour all winter so I have enough equipment for the summer and depending on how much I give away I don't have to worry about lures during the fishing season.

I believe do-it molds tells you how to smoke your molds but if not here. Hold the mold above the candle and keep moving it closer to the flame until it starts putting down a dark black layer of soot.

You will have to experiment with how close to hold the candles as I have found different candle makers candles start smoking at different distances. Use gloves as the mold will get warm and you will be able to use it right away.

Do-it molds recommends warming the molds before you start pouring lead or tin. I hope this helps and I recommend you at least try it and see how it works. I believe you will quit buying the expensive spray releases.

 

 

I also have some poured heads I can send you. They will be bullet heads. I like them for the way they come through weeds. I have heads up to an ounce. Do you have everything you need to finish of the spinnerbaits? Can you make buzzbaits?

I have some of those heads poured also if you would like to put a couple of them together. All I want in return is for you to tell others how well my lures work or write me a little testimony.

I don't know what sizes I have left but I will send you a couple of each just PM me and we can chat.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Kelly

Smoking a mold does work but it isn't perfect. Candle soot works as a release agent but it won't help with lead flow, at least it never has for me in over 20 years. I have a brush jig mold that in order to get a complete pour needs to be extremely hot as well as the lead. I'm talking lead temps at 825 degrees in a really hot mold to get a complete pour and that is with candle soot, a quick spray with Drop Out and I get a complete pour with my lead back down to 725 degrees, a 100 degree difference. The same issue for some of the molds I modified to take a larger hook or a different one altogether, these modified molds typically needed to be red hot and have super hot lead poured into the cavities in order to get a complete pour. With the mold release spray they pour a lot easier than they do with just candle soot. You are right in that smoking a mold will work and is cheaper but it isn't a replacement. Drop Out will help stubborn molds pour better and it does so a lot better than candle soot and if it didn't nobody would buy it. I agree smoking a mold will help but sometimes you need a little extra and that is what Drop Out is for.

[cadman]

15 hours ago, kelly1960 said:

Stop spending your money on expensive drop out mold release. Do-it molds recommends right in their instructions says to use a candle and smoke the molds.

I have been using this method for years and have never had a problem and a pack of candles is a lot cheaper then the stuff in a can. When you soot on your mold make sure you also do the side of the mold where you pour the lead.

Your lead will pour better and you will have a cleaner pour into the molds. I had a tackle company in Idaho but since moving to Michigan I have not had time to start it back up yet.

I have 28 molds and plan to add to them. I pour all winter so I have enough equipment for the summer and depending on how much I give away I don't have to worry about lures during the fishing season.

I believe do-it molds tells you how to smoke your molds but if not here. Hold the mold above the candle and keep moving it closer to the flame until it starts putting down a dark black layer of soot.

You will have to experiment with how close to hold the candles as I have found different candle makers candles start smoking at different distances. Use gloves as the mold will get warm and you will be able to use it right away.

Do-it molds recommends warming the molds before you start pouring lead or tin. I hope this helps and I recommend you at least try it and see how it works. I believe you will quit buying the expensive spray releases.

 

 

I also have some poured heads I can send you. They will be bullet heads. I like them for the way they come through weeds. I have heads up to an ounce. Do you have everything you need to finish of the spinnerbaits? Can you make buzzbaits?

I have some of those heads poured also if you would like to put a couple of them together. All I want in return is for you to tell others how well my lures work or write me a little testimony.

I don't know what sizes I have left but I will send you a couple of each just PM me and we can chat.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Kelly

Kelly,

   Before you go off on telling people what works and what doesn't, my first question to you is this. Have you ever used drop-out mold release? If not, then don't tell people to quit wasting their money. I have used candle soot in the past before I read/heard about Drop-Out, and there is no comparison. Soot works marginally compared to Drop-Out. Also soot is dirty, and it at times leaves an oily residue on jigs, which can cause failure with powder paint. I can spray on Drop-Out on my molds, and can easily pour 100 plus jigs before re-application. The use of Drop-Out does aid in better pours and fuller pours. If you haven't used it. try it. If you don't want to try it don't criticize the idea, because there are a lot of guys that use it that have been pouring for over 20 years and are very pleased.

BTW a nice way to introduce yourself on a 3rd post. 

[kelly1960]

Yes I have tried mold releases and do not like them. I find I have to heat my molds more with mold release compared to mold releases. I have a walking weight that the smaller size weights won't pore

the top part of the weight with the mold release. I have also been sailing my spinnerbaits and jigs for 15 years now. Some on eBay and some in local tackle shops in Idaho. I don't have my business up and running

Gin since the move to Michigan. So yes I have experience with mold releases and stand by what I said to begin with. It all depends on  a persons likes and dislikes and I prefer smoking my molds to

buying expensive mold releases thank you very much. I have 30 molds I pore right mow and I am working on adding another 15 molds to my work. Being new to Michigan I am talking to Bass nation to

see what it will take to set up at their events to sale my product. Where I lived in Moscow Idaho you had two lakes. Dworshak to the south about 45 miles for large smallmouth. The state record was broke

twice in a year with 10+ pound bass. Can't remember the ounces. Smallmouth getting big and fat on to many Coho salmon for the like. Most Coho in the lake are 4 to 7 inches long. Perfect for a fat smallmouth.

 Then there is lake Coeur d' Alene to the north and it has been fished by Shaw Grisby on his show. That lake has smallmouth but the largemouth and northern pike are the main fish in the lake.

Again about 50 miles north of Moscow. To each their own and what works for some doesn't work for others. That's what is so wonderful about this world. we all have our own way of doing things.

Be pretty boring if we all did the same thing. What a wonderful world we live in. Everyone have a great day and better tomorrow.

 

Thank you for your time and consideration. Kelly

 

 

 

[Jig Man]

I used to smoke molds with marginal success.  After cadman turned me on to Frankfort Arsenal Drop Out spray I quit and now use it.   Smoke did not work on my Poison Tail molds.  Drop Out did.