Junger Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I have a couple rods where the nut doesn't screw down perfectly flush where there's no gap between the blank and the nut. The feet on reels aren't standard, and when you have rod boots that probably aren't standard either, nothing is going to fit perfectly snug without trial and error. OP should probably edit the topic and add a Mea Culpa line in the very first post. It seems like some incorrect manufacturer bashing until the bottom of the page. 2 minutes ago, Jcj90 said: 1. Guides aren’t supposed to be spaced apart the same. 2. All guides aren’t supposed to the same size 3. generally double footed guides are closer the reel and single foot as you move further up the rod. 4. The blank is thicker towards the butt end and thinner towards the top. Is is this your first time ever purchasing a fishing rod? They are all like that. theres literally nothing wrong with your rod anywyas I own 6 Dobyns fury rods and have not had one single issue with them. As far as reel not fitting in the reel seat some reels have a larger foot and don’t sit in a certain reel seat the proper ways as long as the reel is snug you shouldn’t have any issues with the reel wobbling or coming loose His post was 100% sarcastic. Look at his user name... Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, J Francho said: Don't they use the standard Fuji reel seat? Seems like we'd be hearing quite a bit if it was that pervasive. Also, somewhere I recall Presidents not fitting all rods. I could be wrong. Yes Dobyns only uses Fuji reel seats, the problem is the reel foot. Tom 5 Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 Yet another reason besides OCD not to put a Daiwa reel on a Shimano rod... Combos are looking better and better. 1 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 21 hours ago, Glaucus said: I noticed another was bent at the top 1/3 of the rod. Some people say that bend is normal, but none of the other rods have that I love my Dobyns rods, but this is something I've noticed on my Fury's as well. Not a deal-breaker, but I expect better. I know some say this is normal, but I don't have this issue on any of my other brand rods. And my Sierra is fine too. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said: I love my Dobyns rods, but this is something I've noticed on my Fury's as well. Not a deal-breaker, but I expect better. I know some say this is normal, but I don't have this issue on any of my other brand rods. And my Sierra is fine too. If you look very, very closely almost every rod has the slightest imperfection when it comes to being straight. It's so slight you don't even notice. That's what's normal. What's not normal is when the bend is strong and is noticeable by mistake because it's just so obviously not straight. And that's how that one Fury is. My wife actually noticed first. She says, hey did you see that one is bent? And she doesn't inspect gear like a typical OCD fisherman lol. However I sent it and the broken guide rod back for exchanges. Also my Legalis reels come in tomorrow and I anticipate them fitting the spinning rods just fine. The bent one looks like a rod does when it's leaning against the wall a little bit. Mostly verticle, but slightly leaning. No way that's normal. Awhile back I was noticing some rods like this in stores and looked it up. Aaron Martens has some information about it. He says that's what happens when a rod is stored improperly. It takes the bend over time and then ruined. I trust him. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, BaitFinesse said: Yep, not all reel feet are the same size. Some reels will leave a bigger gap in some reel seats that other reels. If this sort of thing bothers you then ask around the forums to see how others with the same reel/rod combo find the fitment before purchasing. Others aren't bothered by this ar all and are perplexed as to why anyone would care. Know your tastes and do your due diligence before purchasing. I've spent all winter upgrading my gear, my wife's gear, and my son's gear. I've done extensive research. That's why I settled on Dobyns. A normal President should fit them. First page proves that. I got unlucky and got 2 Presidents that do not. The reel feet between the 2 are slightly different sizes and shapes too. Not noticeable unless you're seriously comparing them after running into a problem like mine. Quote
ike8120 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I upgraded my rods to Dobyns Fury series 702SF/KastKing Sharky lll No problems with rod or reel, 703SF/ Shimano 2500, No problems, 705CB/Diawa Fuego CT, No Problems, 735C/Diawa Fuego CT/No Problems. I just checked all 4 of my rods and I have green. Quote
Super User MickD Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 7 hours ago, ResoKP said: Not trying to be a D but almost all rods do have a visible bend. If you ask any rod builder they will tell you almost all of the blanks (high-end, low-end doesn't matter) will have varying degrees of noticeable bend. Only a very very very few are arrow straight. I'm sure if you look closely you will see slight bends on all of your rods. If not, have someone who has a trained eye take a look at them. Rod manufactures try hiding it as much as possible building on the straightest axis, etc but really, a perfectly straight blank is almost next to impossible to produce. Honestly the most stressful part of buying a new rod is because of this for me. If I cannot inspect & compare at least 3 of the same rods side by side in person, I usually don't buy it. I know it doesn't affect performance but it bothers me if the bends are "too" noticeable or in the left/right direction. I am a builder and have a "trained eye." I've been working on that eye for about 65 years. If the bend is easily noticeable, like you keep seeing it and cannot forget about it, then it's too much. If it can be masked by building with it up so it's not going to the sides, then fine. It won't hurt anything. While I don't know, I expect that manufacturers don't even notice the slight bends and don't bother building on the straightest axis. Most blanks I see, when put onto my wrapper with two supports, one at the butt, and one about 2 feet out, will not show more than about 3/16 of an inch of tip position movement when rotated. I asked a blank maker one time about a blank that moved 1/4 and they wanted to replace it. Built on the straight axis, tip up, it is not noticeable. To me. 2 Quote
ResoKP Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 28 minutes ago, MickD said: I am a builder and have a "trained eye." I've been working on that eye for about 65 years. If the bend is easily noticeable, like you keep seeing it and cannot forget about it, then it's too much. If it can be masked by building with it up so it's not going to the sides, then fine. It won't hurt anything. While I don't know, I expect that manufacturers don't even notice the slight bends and don't bother building on the straightest axis. Most blanks I see, when put onto my wrapper with two supports, one at the butt, and one about 2 feet out, will not show more than about 3/16 of an inch of tip position movement when rotated. I asked a blank maker one time about a blank that moved 1/4 and they wanted to replace it. Built on the straight axis, tip up, it is not noticeable. To me. I guess how much "noticeable" a bend is can be subjective to each person. I'm probably seeing all those "less than 3/16 of an inch of tip position" because I'm too OCD. Recently spent 4 hours at a fishing show checking out 100's of rods... Saw lots of bends lol. Actually bought a rod there. Had to ask the guy to bring out 4 of the same rod so I can pick the one I like. Retailers probably hate guys like me lol. As a rod builder, do you find higher-end blanks have more curve to them because the blanks are more "raw" ? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Reel feet are not universal. It looks like they’re trying to do right by trimming the seat threads back like many custom builders do. Maybe too much of a good thing. As for the blanks, very seldom are any poker straight it won’t hurt a thing. I’m not one to excuse the mass production issues just adding some perspective. At the end of the day you’re the customer and that’s where expectations lie whether anyone else agrees or not. 3 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 7, 2019 Super User Posted March 7, 2019 Maybe a mod can change the title to Pflueger reels do not fit my spinning rods. That way it doesn't seem like a Dobyns bashing thread. 4 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 7, 2019 Super User Posted March 7, 2019 @Glaucus, if you want to get rid of that President 25, I'll take it off your hands...no charge. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: @Glaucus, if you want to get rid of that President 25, I'll take it off your hands...no charge. If you really want it you can have it. Saves me from buying a rod for it. I've seen where your fishing budget isn't great so I'd love to do that. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 7, 2019 Super User Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, Glaucus said: If you really want it you can have it. Saves me from buying a rod for it. I've seen where your fishing budget isn't great so I'd love to do that. I was kind of joking - but if you're willing...toss me a PM and we can set things up. Thank you so much.... Quote
Glaucus Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, MN Fisher said: I was kind of joking - but if you're willing...toss me a PM and we can set things up. Thank you so much.... I know you were lol but still I'm serious. I was gonna get an HMG for the extra reel and give it to my wife but honestly but we didn't need it. I'll PM The 30 is off limits tho. That's going on the HMG I have with no reel on it. Quote
Super User MickD Posted March 7, 2019 Super User Posted March 7, 2019 15 hours ago, ResoKP said: As a rod builder, do you find higher-end blanks have more curve to them because the blanks are more "raw" ? No, I do not see any correlation between straightness on blanks with respect to cost. Or company (AmTac, Rainshadow, St Croix/Rodgeeks, Point Blank.) Almost all are within that 3/16, most within an eighth. I build on blanks that run from about $60 to about $200, most in the $70-$120 range. 1 Quote
carrageenan Posted September 10, 2021 Posted September 10, 2021 Really wish I had found this thread before I purchased my fury. The kicker is I sold my Legalis to pay for the fury/new reel, and they are not compatible. A .05” difference in reel foot and seat width is the issue, of course this smaller seat width is not addressed in any of the specs posted on line (that I have seen)… Quote
Crow Horse Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 I'm by no means an expert on this but isn't the "bend" in a rod called the spine/spline? Quote
Big Hands Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 On 3/6/2019 at 10:38 AM, NYWayfarer said: Yet another reason besides OCD not to put a Daiwa reel on a Shimano rod... Combos are looking better and better. Be careful putting a Daiwa Kage LT 2000D-XH reel on a Daiwa Kage rod too. It's a Fuji VSS TS reel seat. I suggest that anyone thinking of using this reel seat with any spinning reel try the reel in the seat to make sure it's not loose at the rear of the foot. I ended up using a shim made from clear plastic packaging to get it to stop squirming. Daiwa uses two different reel feet on their spinning reels and both had issues. Oddly enough the Kage reel fits beautifully on a Tatula rod with essentially the same rod specs (but they use a different reel seat). SMDH. Quote
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