Jonny15678 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I did the same thing suggested and the reel fits perfect. Still strange how some rods won’t accept certain reels while others will. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jonny15678 said: I did the same thing suggested and the reel fits perfect. Still strange how some rods won’t accept certain reels while others will. I've never had it happen before until now. I've heard about it, never seen it. These Presidents are new. I got them at a going out of business sale at a store that doesn't see much traffic (hence going out of business). The packaging is older. Wonder if that's why? No idea why. I actually put the 25 (the worst offender here) on a Fenwick HMG that doesn't have a reel on it at the moment and it seemed to fit that fine (although the seat is different). I'll probably get another HMG for the size 30 and give those to my wife since they pair apparently pair just fine, and then get some Daiwas for these Dobyns spinning rods. 1 Quote
Jonny15678 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Glaucus said: I've never had it happen before until now. I've heard about it, never seen it. These Presidents are new. I got them at a going out of business sale at a store that doesn't see much traffic (hence going out of business). The packaging is older. Wonder if that's why? No idea why. I actually put the 25 (the worst offender here) on a Fenwick HMG that doesn't have a reel on it at the moment and it seemed to fit that fine (although the seat is different). I'll probably get another HMG for the size 30 and give those to my wife since they pair apparently pair just fine, and then get some Daiwas for these Dobyns spinning rods. I had a Okuma stratus VI reel on the Dobyons. I think I’ll be getting a lews reel since my other one fits nicely on the dobyons. Quote
dam0007 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jonny15678 said: I had a Okuma stratus VI reel on the Dobyons. I think I’ll be getting a lews reel since my other one fits nicely on the dobyons. Don’t quote me on which Lews model, I think it’s the Carbon Fire Fiber, idk, it was a Dicks exclusive made by Penn or something... any how that foot doesn’t fit on several style reel seats, the part of the foot the extends down towards the butt was like 3in long and the part that extends towards the tip was much shorter and smaller. So the bottom part doesn’t fit  and the top part is too small and sits loose.  A guy in my club had bought like 4 of them and the only reel seat that they fit in was a PAC bay minima.  Very strange.  Daiwa Shimano and Abu I have never seen or heard of any issues with the spinning reels fitment...  good luck! Quote
Jonny15678 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, dam0007 said: Don’t quote me on which Lews model, I think it’s the Carbon Fire Fiber, idk, it was a Dicks exclusive made by Penn or something... any how that foot doesn’t fit on several style reel seats, the part of the foot the extends down towards the butt was like 3in long and the part that extends towards the tip was much shorter and smaller. So the bottom part doesn’t fit  and the top part is too small and sits loose.  A guy in my club had bought like 4 of them and the only reel seat that they fit in was a PAC bay minima.  Very strange.  Daiwa Shimano and Abu I have never seen or heard of any issues with the spinning reels fitment...  good luck! I was looking at the Lews speed spool LFS Quote
dam0007 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jonny15678 said: I was looking at the Lews speed spool LFS I have no idea man. Try it out!  Heres a example what i meant about the different locking nut both of these are Sierras 1 Quote
Revival Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Glad you got it sorted out. Â All I use are Dobyns and love them. Â Enjoy your new combos! Quote
TBAG Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 All of my Dobyns Sierras, both casting and spinning work perfect with my Shimano reels. ? Quote
je1946 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I own 4 Dobyns rods 3 HPs and one Champion XP all are perfect and I fish them hard. You didn't state where you purchased the rods from but I'd be surprised if it were from Dobyns directly. You should ABSOLUTELY not accept any rod with issues. I promise you if you call Dobyns they will make it right, do not email them CALL them. I purchased a heavy rod from them for punching mats and never used it, a yr later I called Dobyns and told them I would like to exchange the rod for another. They told me to send the rod back to them and if it was in gd shape they would do the exchange. They did. CALL Gary and explain what happened and tell him your unhappy. I promise they'll make it right for you. 1 Quote
kschultz76 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Sorry for your troubles, certainly call Dobyns. I recently got two Sierra spinning rods and had similar fitment issue with the locking nut. While some reels may be worse the next others I do think they just cut the threads too short on the reel seat to accommodate all sizes of spinning reel foot.  I can can get them right enough that it won’t be an issue, but would like it to fit better. If you’re worried about the screw loosening back it all the way off and put a wrap of Teflon tape around the threads then tighten it down. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 I too have experienced unacceptable issues with all the Dobyn's Fury casting rods I purchased this past Christmas. You would think a company that purports to make a quality product and stand behind it would catch these obvious issues during even rudimentary quality control. I didn't notice these problems until I fished with the rods a few times, and since I liked the way they fished, now I'm stuck with these inferior rods I guess. The first problem I noticed is that the guides are not evenly spaced. I measured the distance between each one carefully and there aren't even two that are the same. It's like they just put them where ever. Maybe I could live with this as it only seems to affect rod action and sensitivity minimally, but on further inspection, the guides are not all the same size, and some only have one leg that connects to the rod. To make matters worse, the last guide on the end of the rod is different than all the rest, it's like they just ran out of blank so they just capped it. Why couldn't they just extend the blank another half inch or so and make them the same? I can't imagine that would be difficult or cost much more, and to make matters worse I thought the blank looked funny, but was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but finally I decided to measure, and sure enough, the blank isn't the same size everywhere, its bigger near the handle and skinnier near the top. Has anyone else also had these problems, and how did you solve them? Please help me out, I don't know what else to do, this is so unfair...  (I tried lurking, honest I did)  3 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 42 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: Please help me out, I don't know what else to do, this is so unfair... I'll buy them from you, ten cents on the dollar. That way you can recoup the money a bit. 3 Quote
ResoKP Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 13 hours ago, MickD said: Regarding the bends. A rod should not have a visible bend. Contact the mfr or dealer. Not trying to be a D but almost all rods do have a visible bend. If you ask any rod builder they will tell you almost all of the blanks (high-end, low-end doesn't matter) will have varying degrees of noticeable bend. Only a very very very few are arrow straight.  I'm sure if you look closely you will see slight bends on all of your rods. If not, have someone who has a trained eye take a look at them.  Rod manufactures try hiding it as much as possible building on the straightest axis, etc but really, a perfectly straight blank is almost next to impossible to produce.  Honestly the most stressful part of buying a new rod is because of this for me. If I cannot inspect & compare at least 3 of the same rods side by side in person, I usually don't buy it. I know it doesn't affect performance but it bothers me if the bends are "too" noticeable or in the left/right direction. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 Guys, we discovered Pflueger is at fault. The reel feet on the reels are different sizes from each other. I ordered 2 Legalis reels to replace them. Hopefully those have a better fit.  However had it been the rods, I don't accept this answer, but I guess that's why you guys said to call and not email. The reason I don't is because there's visual proof of Presidents fitting perfectly in this very thread.  PS I would never use tools to tighten my reels down lol Quote
Subaqua Adinterim Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BassWhole! said: (I tried lurking, honest I did) Too funny - great name change, as well as matching avatar pic - LOL 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 What was wrong with their reply? Seems like they were basically saying that it was more than likely the size of the reel and not the rod (which you even admitted) that was to blame. 1 Quote
Subaqua Adinterim Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: What was wrong with their reply? Seems like they were basically saying that it was more than likely the size of the reel and not the rod (which you even admitted) that was to blame. BWhole's response was in jest; not knocking the rod maker, although the length and detail of his response may have made that less than apparent initially. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: What was wrong with their reply? Seems like they were basically saying that it was more than likely the size of the reel and not the rod (which you even admitted) that was to blame. That some manufacturers don't fit the same as others. Valid point. However, Presidents fit other Fury rods perfectly fine as seen in this thread. If Pflueger was consistent in their reel feet, then it would be the rod, not the reel manufacturer. So I wouldn't be able to buy that considering I see that a standard President will fit just fine. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, RichPenNY said: BWhole's response was in jest; not knocking the rod maker, although the length and detail of his response may have made that less than apparent initially. I know, I should have quoetd Glaucus. He said he wasn't happy with their response. 49 minutes ago, Glaucus said: Guys, we discovered Pflueger is at fault. The reel feet on the reels are different sizes from each other. I ordered 2 Legalis reels to replace them. Hopefully those have a better fit.  However had it been the rods, I don't accept this answer, but I guess that's why you guys said to call and not email. The reason I don't is because there's visual proof of Presidents fitting perfectly in this very thread.  PS I would never use tools to tighten my reels down lol  2 minutes ago, Glaucus said: That some manufacturers don't fit the same as others. Valid point. However, Presidents fit other Fury rods perfectly fine as seen in this thread. If Pflueger was consistent in their reel feet, then it would be the rod, not the reel manufacturer. So I wouldn't be able to buy that considering I see that a standard President will fit just fine. So why are you upset with their response if you admit that it is the reel and not the rod? Seems like you just want to be mad at Dobyns and are going to be no matter what. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 Don't they use the standard Fuji reel seat? Seems like we'd be hearing quite a bit if it was that pervasive. Also, somewhere I recall Presidents not fitting all rods. I could be wrong. Quote
Glaucus Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: I know, I should have quoetd Glaucus. He said he wasn't happy with their response.  So why are you upset with their response if you admit that it is the reel and not the rod? Seems like you just want to be mad at Dobyns and are going to be no matter what. You're not understanding me and that's OK. I'm not mad at Dobyns any longer. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 56 minutes ago, Glaucus said: Guys, we discovered Pflueger is at fault. The reel feet on the reels are different sizes from each other. I ordered 2 Legalis reels to replace them. Hopefully those have a better fit.  However had it been the rods, I don't accept this answer, but I guess that's why you guys said to call and not email. The reason I don't is because there's visual proof of Presidents fitting perfectly in this very thread.   But it wasn't the rods, so why would you not accept this answer? They were telling you that not all reels are the same. Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 I'm confused. The reels are not loose, it is just that the nut doesn't tighten down as far as it should on the spinning reels than the casting reels, correct? Of course, a spinning reel is not a casting reel and not meant to be put on a casting rod and vice versa. Or do the spinning reels fit differently from each other?  Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 Perhaps place a few strips of precisely positioned quality black electrical tape on the reel seat foot. Just enough to take up 'the space'. Tighten snugly, however, I'd recommend you do not torque on it - you may strip the threads. A-Jay Quote
Jcj90 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, BassWhole! said: I too have experienced unacceptable issues with all the Dobyn's Fury casting rods I purchased this past Christmas. You would think a company that purports to make a quality product and stand behind it would catch these obvious issues during even rudimentary quality control. I didn't notice these problems until I fished with the rods a few times, and since I liked the way they fished, now I'm stuck with these inferior rods I guess. The first problem I noticed is that the guides are not evenly spaced. I measured the distance between each one carefully and there aren't even two that are the same. It's like they just put them where ever. Maybe I could live with this as it only seems to affect rod action and sensitivity minimally, but on further inspection, the guides are not all the same size, and some only have one leg that connects to the rod. To make matters worse, the last guide on the end of the rod is different than all the rest, it's like they just ran out of blank so they just capped it. Why couldn't they just extend the blank another half inch or so and make them the same? I can't imagine that would be difficult or cost much more, and to make matters worse I thought the blank looked funny, but was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but finally I decided to measure, and sure enough, the blank isn't the same size everywhere, its bigger near the handle and skinnier near the top. Has anyone else also had these problems, and how did you solve them? Please help me out, I don't know what else to do, this is so unfair...  (I tried lurking, honest I did)  1. Guides aren’t supposed to be spaced apart the same. 2. All guides aren’t supposed to the same size 3. generally double footed guides are closer the reel and single foot as you move further up the rod. 4. The blank is thicker towards the butt end and thinner towards the top.  Is is this your first time ever purchasing a fishing rod? They are all like that. theres literally nothing wrong with your rod  I own 6 Dobyns fury rods and have not had one single issue with them. As far as reel not fitting in the reel seat some reels have a larger foot and don’t sit in a certain reel seat the proper way. as long as the reel is snug you shouldn’t have any issues with the reel wobbling or coming loose 2 Quote
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