fin Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 I’ve always been curious about them, but never tried one. I don’t understand how they work. To get below the surface, most lures use a lip, or they sink by weight, but they just keep on sinking. I understand suspending cranks, but I don’t understand how a lure can get below the surface and stay at a certain depth without a lip. I want one anyway. Who makes a good one? 2 Quote
Way north bass guy Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Quite a few years ago I won a big pike tournament, over 100 boats, by running a suspending rattle trap and stopping it over the top of big cabbage beds. My partner and I were literally drifting through a huge bay that had about 30 other boats in it, and we were the only guys catching fish. For a while I didn’t even make a cast, just kept culling pike as my partner caught one after another on every cast! The concave part of the head in front of the line tie acts like a lip to make it dive down, the rattle traps we were using only went a couple feet down but it was the perfect depth as the cabbage topped off just below the surface. They are a great bait to cover water with, but you can stop them for a second or two whenever you want and there’s no danger of sinking into the weeds. 4 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted March 5, 2019 Super User Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, fin said: Who makes a good one? Ima Suspending Vibration Lipless Crankbait TW has them. 9.99$ 5 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 5, 2019 Super User Posted March 5, 2019 Bill Lewis makes a Float-N-Trap & use to make a Red Zone Trap that suspended. Cotton Cordell makes the Suspending Super Spot is not a sinking bait, instead staying within 3 feet of the surface even when paused. 3 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 5, 2019 Super User Posted March 5, 2019 The Sebile Flatt Shad SU77 ~ Is 1/2 oz and suspends about 12-24 inches under the surface. It really will not sink or dive much deeper than that. The 77 SU is designed for fishing over submerged weedbeds and through the tops of brush. This one's great to work through shallow brush or shallow grass cover. It will not sink or dive too deep, and is a real sweet model that's best for working shallow cover in situations where the other models could get hung up more often. Plus, you can pause and suspend it right in front of a fish's face where you suspect one's hiding in the cover. They are unfortunately a discontinued bait and can be a little tricky to find. E-Bay may be a good place to start a search. When you find one (or more) Buy it ! (I have a secret stash that I guard quite seriously) A-Jay 5 Quote
primetime Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I love the Sebile SU 77 and it has caught me some good fish when the condition are right. I purchased about 5 lots on ebay back when they were discontinued and won a bunch of auctions, so I have a bunch and glad I do.... You can pitch them into tight spots and they suspend perfectly most of the time. The one issue I have had is I had to change hooks on a bunch of them, and now they do not suspend the same way, even taking off a split ring causes them to swim different or float slowly which is not bad. I like to throw a suspending Lipless around the spawn or flats and will just let them soak in areas where I think fish are, or fish them above grass and not have to worry about snags etc.... Cotton Cordell has the Suspending Spot which is actually a good bait at times as well. The one lipless crankbait I have never had luck with is the floating traps which I still think have potential...Just hard to cast and I never tie them on, but I like the idea... 3 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 6, 2019 Global Moderator Posted March 6, 2019 I have some redzone traps. They're deadly at times early in the year in shallow water over grass. 2 Quote
fin Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 So not a lot of options, apparently. Just the Ima, and maybe Cotton Cordell and Sebile (if they can be found). I saw an article about making them out of wood and it's tempting me. On the plus side, I could make something totally custom, on the negative side, balancing it would probably be a nightmare. Quote
fin Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, FCPhil said: Ima suspending vibration trap is good! I believe it, but it would end up costing me about $17 after shipping. A lot for me. I'm going to keep my eye out at some of the local places, or wait for a sale, or make one, which would probably end up costing me more but it would be fun. Quote
kenmitch Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I have this addiction, obsession, whatever you want to call it for lipless crankbaits. Posting these kind of threads just feeds it more. I planned on trying out new offerings this season as I've already purchased rod and reel combos and lot's of other offerings to go with them. Currently I'm the guy on the lake flinging a lipless fishing for bass, who pretends to be fishing for the fish of a thousand casts! Thanks guys! Currently on google looking for suspending lipless crankbaits! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, kenmitch said: I have this addiction, obsession, whatever you want to call it for lipless crankbaits. Posting these kind of threads just feeds it more. I planned on trying out new offerings this season as I've already purchased rod and reel combos and lot's of other offerings to go with them. Currently I'm the guy on the lake flinging a lipless fishing for bass, who pretends to be fishing for the fish of a thousand casts! Thanks guys! Currently on google looking for suspending lipless crankbaits! OK, Mr. Obession - @kenmitch pm me your mailing address and I'll send you ONE - and One only. After that, you're on your own. A-Jay 6 1 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted March 6, 2019 Super User Posted March 6, 2019 I didn't realize Lewis Rattle Traps stop making them. I guess you can go old school and take a sinking one and drill it out and take ballast out until it suspends? Or you can buy the Ima Suspending Lipless Crankbait for 10 balloons, whatever works. 1 hour ago, A-Jay said: OK, Mr. Obession - @kenmitch pm me your mailing address and I'll send you ONE - and One only. After that, you're on your own. A-Jay Way to "guard them quite seriously"... Actually that's a really nice thing you just did. 2 1 Quote
Fishingmickey Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, fin said: So not a lot of options, apparently. Just the Ima, and maybe Cotton Cordell and Sebile (if they can be found). I saw an article about making them out of wood and it's tempting me. On the plus side, I could make something totally custom, on the negative side, balancing it would probably be a nightmare. See if you can find some of the Bill lewis floating traps and use some suspend dots to weight them. FM 1 Quote
kenmitch Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, A-Jay said: OK, Mr. Obession - @kenmitch pm me your mailing address and I'll send you ONE - and One only. After that, you're on your own. A-Jay Thanks again A-Jay! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 7, 2019 Super User Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, kenmitch said: Thanks again A-Jay! From one rattle bait freak to another - You're Welcome. Here's your bait . . . I upgraded the hooks and also tossed in a surprise 'bonus' bait. You'll have to wait until delvery (Saturday) to see that one. Enjoy A-Jay 5 1 Quote
kenmitch Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 15 hours ago, A-Jay said: From one rattle bait freak to another - You're Welcome. Here's your bait . . . I upgraded the hooks and also tossed in a surprise 'bonus' bait. You'll have to wait until delvery (Saturday) to see that one. Enjoy A-Jay Wow! That's very generous of you. I wasn't expecting something as nice as that one. Let alone a bonus bait to top it off! The color looks like it'll be a winner in my local lake. The depth range of it looks to be perfect for a lot of the areas I like to fish in. There's lot's of submerged cover a couple of feet below the surface in my local lake. Making long casts between targets I often don't know what's there until it's too late. I'll get my baits back, but I feel I spoil the spots when I retrieve them. I can't wait to give that bait a good workout! Thanks Again! Ken May the bass gods reward you with a new PB this season! 1 Quote
dgkasper58 Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 I cannot wait to run home and check if the 1 sebile flat shad I have is suspending (I didn't know these were even invented). Bait monkey here I come! This site is amazing! (and terrible) Quote
kenmitch Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, dgkasper58 said: I cannot wait to run home and check if the 1 sebile flat shad I have is suspending (I didn't know these were even invented). Bait monkey here I come! This site is amazing! (and terrible) I did see a UK seller on ebay that has some available at a reasonable price if not. Didn't look to have any color that would work for me at least. Quote
Jonas Staggs Posted February 10, 2020 Posted February 10, 2020 On 3/5/2019 at 3:18 PM, Catt said: Bill Lewis makes a Float-N-Trap & use to make a Red Zone Trap that suspended. Cotton Cordell makes the Suspending Super Spot is not a sinking bait, instead staying within 3 feet of the surface even when paused. Where'd you get that 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted February 10, 2020 Super User Posted February 10, 2020 6th Sense has their version out now. Quake suspending lipless crankbait. 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 10, 2020 Super User Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, PhishLI said: 6th Sense has their version out now. Quake suspending lipless crankbait. https://www.harpethriveroutfitters.com/collections/lipless/products/6th-sense-fishing-quake-suspending-lipless-crankbait The Bait Monkey says - You're Welcome. A-Jay 1 Quote
Jonas Staggs Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PhishLI said: 6th Sense has their version out now. Quake suspending lipless crankbait. 1 hour ago, A-Jay said: https://www.harpethriveroutfitters.com/collections/lipless/products/6th-sense-fishing-quake-suspending-lipless-crankbait The Bait Monkey says - You're Welcome. A-Jay seems the cotton cordells are hard to get a hold of now. at least the suspending ones....they have a lot of them at walmart, but they come in a ton of different colors......all those other colors are hard to find as well. I can only find places carrying the same ones from walmart. may have to give another brand a go. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 11, 2020 Global Moderator Posted February 11, 2020 Quickly becoming a big fan of the Suspending Quake. 4 Quote
fin Posted February 11, 2020 Author Posted February 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Quickly becoming a big fan of the Suspending Quake. I was going to ask you for a review, but those picture's are worth a thousand words. Have any problems with them swimming right? Do they cast okay? How deep can you get it to go? 1 Quote
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