7' Ultralight too flimsy?

[Quarry Man]

I just bought three 7' ul falcon bucoo sr rods and they seem very whippy. they will be used for powerboat fishing trout in a boat and from the shore. will be using no more than a 1/4 oz of weight. this is the max it is recommended for.

 

is the long rod with an ultralight power and moderate action a bad idea?

[Bluebasser86]

Too whippy for power bait fishing for trout?

[Deeare]

I like fast or xtra fast for powerbait.  Tough to get a good hookset with moderate action rod when using powerbait.  

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, Deeare said:

What action is it?  I like fast or xtra fast for powerbait.  Sounds like a moderate action rod. 

I just looked at Falcon's site - the 7' UL is a Moderate action. Yes, this will be 'whippy' as half the rod flexes easily before the rest starts to bend.

 

For trout, I prefer a Fast action...actually I prefer a Fast action for everything, seems to be the best balance of control and hooking power for me.

[Quarry Man]

18 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Too whippy for power bait fishing for trout?

yes that is what I am asking, didn't get to test the rod out because lakes are frozen and rivers are flooded.

10 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I just looked at Falcon's site - the 7' UL is a Moderate action. Yes, this will be 'whippy' as half the rod flexes easily before the rest starts to bend.

 

For trout, I prefer a Fast action...actually I prefer a Fast action for everything, seems to be the best balance of control and hooking power for me.

im gonna return the rods

[Crestliner2008]

Opt for a faster tip in that rod length for ul fishing.

[redmeansdistortion]

I wouldn't worry about the hook set with a 7' UL moderate action.  I fish trout species more than anything and all of my trout and steelhead rods are moderate action.  Trout have much softer mouths than bass and don't require as much effort on the hook set.  I frequently see rookie trout and steelhead fisherman attempt a bass hook set and lose fish.  All it takes is a flick of the wrist.

[J Francho]

I use light power, moderate action rods for trout.  Works fine for me.  I sometimes even use Powerbait.

 

 

 

 

[spokey9]

I actually prefer "whippy" rods for most of my trout fishing, but I'm also usually using 2lb main line and a 1 lb leader when I'm soaking pb. The longer slower action rod helps protect my light lines and I've never had issue getting a good hookset with one.

[jimmyjoe]

On 2/28/2019 at 5:03 PM, spokey9 said:

 ....  and I've never had issue getting a good hookset with one.

    Exactly.   ?    jj

[Quarry Man]

Well after some thought and your advice, I will keep the rods. Caught on trout on a spinner and one on a drop shot weight lol!

[islandbass]

On 2/24/2019 at 4:51 PM, Quarry Man said:

I just bought three 7' ul falcon bucoo sr rods and they seem very whippy. they will be used for powerboat fishing trout in a boat and from the shore. will be using no more than a 1/4 oz of weight. this is the max it is recommended for.

 

is the long rod with an ultralight power and moderate action a bad idea?

You cannot think in bass terms, brah. You cannot expect a trout or UL rod to have the same characteristics of a bass rod, nor would you want it. 

 

I know where you’re coming from because I used to have that same perception. Those rods are designed that way for a reason and when you finally hook into a decent trout, you will know why. 

 

The action of the rod not only allows you to keep the fish on the line more easily for you, it is also the reason how you will be better able to toss live bait or something like powerbait dough or power eggs. Don’t believe me? Rig up your ML bass rod and try to toss powerbait and hard and as far as you can. Within a few casts, if not on the first cast, that dough will have flown off and sometimes unbeknownst to you and you’d be patiently waiting for a strike and and there is no more dough on the hook. 

 

I hated that whippiness in the beginning but I really like it now that the perception blinders have been removed. 

 

You think it’s fun catching trout on a UL? Wait til you hook into a 3-4 lb bass.... barring heavy cover, you will land that bass, have an awesome fight and realize the joy and awesomeness of UL fishing. 

 

[Brad Reid]

I just generally like the power advantage of a moderate over fast action, casting distance, too. And, since I am 80% spinning over casting gear, I want a rod that loads up well to pin the fish, using the rod to fight the fish, not my reel.

 

Hook sets? No doubt a fast tip has its place for many, many presentations where it excels. But, for any cases where you let the fish hook itself, or you reel in slack line quickly to start loading the rod, then sort of use a delayed and modest sweeping hookset? The hook will be driven in deeper by a moderate action. That shorter lever on a taut line delivers more force to the hook. 

 

Brad 

[Quarry Man]

1 hour ago, Brad Reid said:

I just generally like the power advantage of a moderate over fast action, casting distance, too. And, since I am 80% spinning over casting gear, I want a rod that loads up well to pin the fish, using the rod to fight the fish, not my reel.

 

Hook sets? No doubt a fast tip has its place for many, many presentations where it excels. But, for any cases where you let the fish hook itself, or you reel in slack line quickly to start loading the rod, then sort of use a delayed and modest sweeping hookset? The hook will be driven in deeper by a moderate action. That shorter lever on a taut line delivers more force to the hook. 

 

Brad 

Perfect, I can’t set the hook, so I typically let fish hook themselves and start reeling. Especially with powerbait for trout, the moderate action is ? 

[islandbass]

Q,

hope you post a report man. As much as I love bass fishing, there is something about UL fishing that is a blast. 

 

You should still set the hook a little bit even when fishing with powerbait. The slower action also prevents you from ripping out their (for lack of a better description) “soft” mouths. 

 

Another reason you want to set the hook and not wait is you risk deep/gut hooking them. One it’s harder to unhook them. Two, it is literally a death sentence for them. Even if you plan to keep them, they’ll still die on you and won’t be as fresh so to speak. 

 

 

[Quarry Man]

On 3/21/2019 at 1:43 AM, islandbass said:

Q,

hope you post a report man. As much as I love bass fishing, there is something about UL fishing that is a blast. 

 

You should still set the hook a little bit even when fishing with powerbait. The slower action also prevents you from ripping out their (for lack of a better description) “soft” mouths. 

 

Another reason you want to set the hook and not wait is you risk deep/gut hooking them. One it’s harder to unhook them. Two, it is literally a death sentence for them. Even if you plan to keep them, they’ll still die on you and won’t be as fresh so to speak. 

 

 

I have come to realize what you are saying is entirely true since I first posted this. I am used to a stiff bass rod. different species take different rods, just like ocean and fly rods. 

 

think of the rods I have as surf rods for trout. long length helps me cast far out. The moderate action and ul power are awesome. rod has good sensitivity as well. Not a great creek rod but it can work.