Super User scaleface Posted February 16, 2019 Super User Posted February 16, 2019 I want to fish frogs over Chara algae matts this year and will be using a 7'0" mh action rod spooled with mono . I pull bass from it all the time with other lures on this rod . What frog would excel in getting solid hook ups with this setup ?Perhaps one with slightly smaller hooks , softer body ..? Quote
CroakHunter Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 Jackall kaera frog is a good finesse frog. Also the damiki air frog has air chambers so it can be used like a normal hollow body but is soft like a buzz toad. That way you could use your own size, gauge, and style of hook. Quote
Frog Turds Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 unless you have a reason why you need to keep that mono on there, otherwise ditch it...froggin and mono shouldn't be in the same sentence... Quote
FCPhil Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 How heavy is the mono? I think the power of your rod is less of an issue than the stretch of mono, especially on longer casts. I’d go with a pretty heavy mono if you could. I frog fished all the time with a MH rod but I was using braid and didn’t have many issues. All that being said I would look for finesse frogs that use premium hooks. I have not used it but I’m sure the Kaera frog uses top notch hooks. I’d also look at Teckel frogs, the ones I have seen use owner cutting point hooks. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 16, 2019 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Frog Turds said: unless you have a reason why you need to keep that mono on there, otherwise ditch it...froggin and mono shouldn't be in the same sentence... There is a reason . i will never use braid again . I hold the rod in front of the reel with the line between my finger and thumb . Thats the way I have done it for fifty years its a habit and am not going to change now . Braid slices my index finger on a hookset , just like a knife . Quote
Super User Mobasser Posted February 16, 2019 Super User Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, scaleface said: There is a reason . i will never use braid again . I hold the rod in front of the reel with the line between my finger and thumb . Thats the way I have done it for fifty years its a habit and am not going to change now . Braid slices my index finger on a hookset , just like a knife . Before braid became the big thing, everybody frogged with mono.It will still work 2 Quote
Frog Turds Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 you'd have ALOT of bad days fishin mono in my waters... Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 16, 2019 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Frog Turds said: you'd have ALOT of bad days fishin mono in my waters... This chara is not anchored and comes in easily. I have caught bass up to 7 lbs in it before and I bring them in cocooned in the stuff . Being I'm fishing from a small aluminum boat all the techniques I use are on four or five combos . If I were fishing your stuff I would probably wrap my finger in bowlers tape and switch to braid . 1 Quote
Frog Turds Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 didnt say it was impossible and wouldnt work/cant work, but whats the best tool for the froggin job?...I like to stack things in my favor whenever possible...why I said unless you have a reason to...since you do, and its your bass'n game you'll make do/make it work for ya the best you can... but thank goodness we've got modern line choices and not just stuck with mono...for example, you'd have ALOT of bad days fishin mono in my waters... Quote
long island basser Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 I have and use the Jackall Kaera Frog, booyah, and spro hollow body frogs. Of the three I use most, I’d recommend in this order for you. The booyah is the softest great hookup % and least expensive. The Kaera Frog is slightly smaller profile but still weighs 1/2 oz. The spro is my favorite, but I fish it on a heavy rod with braid. Hope this helps some. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted February 16, 2019 Global Moderator Posted February 16, 2019 If I was gonna use that outfit I would get the softest hollow body frog with the best premium hooks you can get. That to me is the original Scum Frog. The entite Scum line doesn't get much play here but that's ok. Pick one up and try it. They're cheap enough to play with. Mike 2 Quote
rod snapper Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 Booyah Pad Crasher. Incredibly soft body, good hooks, amazing walking action. heart wrenching topwater strikes. also, if mono floats your boat, use it. no harm done. Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 16, 2019 Super User Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Frog Turds said: didnt say it was impossible and wouldnt work/cant work, but whats the best tool for the froggin job?...I like to stack things in my favor whenever possible...why I said unless you have a reason to...since you do, and its your bass'n game you'll make do/make it work for ya the best you can... but thank goodness we've got modern line choices and not just stuck with mono...for example, you'd have ALOT of bad days fishin mono in my waters... I fish mono in this all the time! I catch bass like these ? 3 Quote
greentrout Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 not all froggin' is done in a jungle ... some of us use frogs in open, shallow water ... my big game mono with a mh rod works ok for me ... good fishing ... 3 Quote
Fishing_FF Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike L said: If I was gonna use that outfit I would get the softest hollow body frog with the best premium hooks you can get. That to me is the original Scum Frog. The entite Scum line doesn't get much play here but that's ok. Pick one up and try it. They're cheap enough to play with. After seeing my fellow Floridian @Mike L mention the scum frog, I decided to give them a try. I fished the original series, which I believe has a 3/0 or 4/0 Gammy hook in it, on a St Croix M and MH rods with braid. I liked the brand enough the pair of original Scum frogs I bought now have a family. The collection includes the trophy, the popper, the big/little foots. The trophy line all have a 4/0 Owner. My father-in-law fishes with me on occasion, and has used the collection of Scum Frogs I have. His preferred rod that he fishes with is a St. Croix Mojo Bass MH spinning rod that has mono on it. He has had no issues catching fish with this setup and the Scum frogs. 3 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted February 16, 2019 Super User Posted February 16, 2019 I'm frogging a bit more this year also. Last season I was throwing the Booyah Pad Crushers and Pad Crusher Jr's. Done ok. Wish my hook up rate was better. I'll work on that this year. Want to pick up a few popping versions. I fish them now on a MH and a Med. rod. I'm in a search mode now for a multipurpose rod or Pitching, Flipping & Frogging. I'll find it but over the last couple of weeks of searching I haven't found it. 1 Quote
Frog Turds Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, Catt said: I fish mono in this all the time! I catch bass like these ? good for you, you want a cookie?...you use that mono in my backwater veg, i guarantee that I out land you 37 minutes ago, greentrout said: not all froggin' is done in a jungle ... some of us use frogs in open, shallow water ... my big game mono with a mh rod works ok for me ... good fishing ... no way, say it aint so? ? Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 16, 2019 Super User Posted February 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Frog Turds said: good for you, you want a cookie?...you use that mono in my backwater veg, i guarantee that I out land you Where y'all at aint any thicker than down here! Out land me! ROTFLMAO ? Quote
Frog Turds Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 you're the best stick at all things and a legend in your own mind Catt...ya I said OUTLAND you vs your mono in my backwaters, I didnt stutter...only one thats laughing is you Chief... Spots/areas I fish on a regular basis, heavier cover than what you fish...you dont even know whats in that pic i posted...and what it is-is alot heavier than that lettuce you showed... to use Catts own words as he likes to blah blah pro this, blah blah pro that to back his ego up...how many Pros & Elites you see fish true heavy cover with mono? Ohhhh thats right, like bout zip zero zilch... Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 16, 2019 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2019 I was at wal Mart awhile ago and picked up two Scum frogs . Ill keep an eye out for the Jackall kaera frog's . 4 Quote
Drew03cmc Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 10:24 AM, FCPhil said: How heavy is the mono? I think the power of your rod is less of an issue than the stretch of mono, especially on longer casts. I’d go with a pretty heavy mono if you could. I frog fished all the time with a MH rod but I was using braid and didn’t have many issues. All that being said I would look for finesse frogs that use premium hooks. I have not used it but I’m sure the Kaera frog uses top notch hooks. I’d also look at Teckel frogs, the ones I have seen use owner cutting point hooks. Jackall makes killer baits. I can't wait for warmer water to try a Kaera as well as my Pad Crashers, Teckels and toad baits. On 2/16/2019 at 10:26 AM, scaleface said: There is a reason . i will never use braid again . I hold the rod in front of the reel with the line between my finger and thumb . Thats the way I have done it for fifty years its a habit and am not going to change now . Braid slices my index finger on a hookset , just like a knife . I am sorry, I am having a hard time with this. You get cut by braid (the right tool for the job) so you want to use a rubber band to set hooks on a frog at distance. If using mono, go to, at the least a H power rod. I, personally, use 50# braid on a 7'3" H power Ethos HD, even in clear water. It just makes more sense to me. I also toss soft swim baits like the 5" weedless Rising Son on a 6/0 Beast 1/4oz hook on this combo. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 18, 2019 Super User Posted February 18, 2019 Take a look at Tuf-Line Super Cast. No stretch, acts much like mono. It's my favorite for topwater. Break strength is about double that of mono, when comparing diameter. So, 30# line feels like 15# mono. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 18, 2019 Author Super User Posted February 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, Drew03cmc said: I am sorry, I am having a hard time with this. You get cut by braid (the right tool for the job) so you want to use a rubber band to set hooks on a frog at distance. What dont you understand ? Mono doesnt cut flesh like braid . Thats what the question is about , what frog would work best with my current setups . I'm limited to the number of rods I can take and am not going to purchase a frog rod . I got the answers I wanted . I have no problem pulling bass out of this stuff with my existing outfits . 2 Quote
Crankin4Bass Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 I think that bamabass guy on youtube uses 17lb original stren mono with a mh loomis rod. works for him. 2 Quote
EGbassing Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 I don't fish frogs much but I always use a MH for flipping cover. (1/2 oz. 4/0 hook jigs) A heavy would probably be better but I've never had any real problems with the MH. Quote
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