Glaucus Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I've avoided them because I've always been told that their power ratings are laughably overstated. How bad is it really? I'm currently looking at a Fury that might fit the bill for something I'm looking to do. (doesn't matter, just looking at one) Quote
CroakHunter Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I have only fished 1 model of fury. The 735. I fish 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 ounce jigs and 1/4 to 3/4 ounce texas rigged creatures/craws. I believe the rod is rated up to 1.5 ounces. So it runs fairly accurate to my expectations. 3/4 ounce head +hook+weedguard + trailer is gonna be close to 1.25 ounces. 1/2 ounce weight or head plus plastic is sweet spot 1 Quote
Russ E Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I own 3 fury rods. They are nice for the price range. In regards to the power ratings, every rod manufacturer has their own rules. From my own experience a fury`s power runs a little lighter than some manufacturers. I would not call them laughably overstated. 2 Quote
dam0007 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 There’s no “standard” on powers and actions for rod manufacturers, across all the different brands. With that being said the lure weight ratings for each rod is spot on. Across the different dobyns lines Fury to Sierra to champ etc due to the different blanks some may seem to have a faster taper than others. Which fury are you thinking about and for what technique? I have several maybe I can help steer you in the right direction. 1 1 Quote
Glaucus Posted February 12, 2019 Author Posted February 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, dam0007 said: There’s no “standard” on powers and actions for rod manufacturers, across all the different brands. With that being said the lure weight ratings for each rod is spot on. Across the different dobyns lines Fury to Sierra to champ etc due to the different blanks some may seem to have a faster taper than others. Which fury are you thinking about and for what technique? I have several maybe I can help steer you in the right direction. The 6'6" MH casting for weightless or lightly weighted soft plastics. I just don't want to get it and it fish like a M. I guess what I'm looking for is a MH that is on the lighter side of MH but still very much so a MH if that makes sense. Edit: has to be their 6'6" because I max out at 6'10". A mixture of kayak, wading, and bank fishing over the years has made 7 plus very uncomfortable to me and I have no intention of changing what isn't broken. Quote
Stephen B Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, dam0007 said: There’s no “standard” on powers and actions for rod manufacturers, across all the different brands. With that being said the lure weight ratings for each rod is spot on. Across the different dobyns lines Fury to Sierra to champ etc due to the different blanks some may seem to have a faster taper than others. Which fury are you thinking about and for what technique? I have several maybe I can help steer you in the right direction. You are correct that there isn't a standard measurement of power ratings, however, the Dobyns lure rating is not reliable either IMO. Quote
Glaucus Posted February 12, 2019 Author Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stephen B said: You are correct that there isn't a standard measurement of power ratings, however, the Dobyns lure rating is not reliable either IMO. Right. While there is no standard, there is "typical" if that makes sense. 1 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted February 12, 2019 Super User Posted February 12, 2019 You may want to avoid Abu Garcia rods too then. I own MH Abu rods that are on the XH side of what I'd call heavy. And I can confidently say that all of my Abu rods are more powerful than their listed rating. Quote
Glaucus Posted February 12, 2019 Author Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, fishballer06 said: You may want to avoid Abu Garcia rods too then. I own MH Abu rods that are on the XH side of what I'd call heavy. And I can confidently say that all of my Abu rods are more powerful than their listed rating. I already do. Those are broomsticks. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Glaucus said: The 6'6" MH casting for weightless or lightly weighted soft plastics. I just don't want to get it and it fish like a M. I guess what I'm looking for is a MH that is on the lighter side of MH but still very much so a MH if that makes sense. Edit: has to be their 6'6" because I max out at 6'10". A mixture of kayak, wading, and bank fishing over the years has made 7 plus very uncomfortable to me and I have no intention of changing what isn't broken. I throw a lot of weightless stuff on the MH models. Great for wacky rigged senkos. The Sierra 683 is nice too, blank is a bit more sensitive and better guides. I heard academy has em on sale right now ridiculously cheap in store only tho Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 12, 2019 Super User Posted February 12, 2019 Dobyns started using Lamiglas rods for his generation 1 and Lamiglas uses numerical power rating ratings; 2 = ML 3 = M 4 = MH 5 = H 6 = XH Since the early years rods have gone lighter weight blanks and inbetween actions and power rating depending on the application. I believe there are too many application specific rods today and the power /action ratings have blurred along with trying to suggest lure weights. If you using jigs and worms weighing between 1/4 oz to 1/2 oz a 4 power/fast action rod works. Jig and worms between 3/8 oz to 3/4 oz a 5 power /fast action. With Dobyns a 5 power /fast action is a all around JWR. Quote
Russ E Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, WRB said: Dobyns started using Lamiglas rods for his generation 1 and Lamiglas uses numerical power rating ratings; 2 = ML 3 = M 4 = MH 5 = H 6 = XH Since the early years rods have gone lighter weight blanks and inbetween actions and power rating depending on the application. I believe there are too many application specific rods today and the power /action ratings have blurred along with trying to suggest lure weights. If you using jigs and worms weighing between 1/4 oz to 1/2 oz a 4 power/fast action rod works. Jig and worms between 3/8 oz to 3/4 oz a 5 power /fast action. With Dobyns a 5 power /fast action is a all around JWR. I agree. I wish the companies would throw a way the technique specific rod ratings and all go to one rating standard. It's funny while one company will have a jig/worm rod they rate as medium/fast, another will rate the same worm rod medium-heavy/fast. while both are essentially the same rod. Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 12, 2019 Super User Posted February 12, 2019 It would be objective if the rod makers all used a weight lifting number in 1/2 lb increments that bottomed out the rod Bend at 90 degrees. Subjectivity sells better so that will never happen. Tom Quote
dam0007 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 9 hours ago, WRB said: Dobyns started using Lamiglas rods for his generation 1 and Lamiglas uses numerical power rating ratings; 2 = ML 3 = M 4 = MH 5 = H 6 = XH Since the early years rods have gone lighter weight blanks and inbetween actions and power rating depending on the application. I believe there are too many application specific rods today and the power /action ratings have blurred along with trying to suggest lure weights. If you using jigs and worms weighing between 1/4 oz to 1/2 oz a 4 power/fast action rod works. Jig and worms between 3/8 oz to 3/4 oz a 5 power /fast action. With Dobyns a 5 power /fast action is a all around JWR. You can’t go by those power ratings anymore from when the brand started. Example DC 3 MH F DC 4 H F DC 5 MH XF DC 6 H XF FR 3 MH FR 4 H FR 5 Mag H DC CB 4 M DC CB 5 MH It can get confusing. Lol Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted February 12, 2019 Super User Posted February 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, dam0007 said: It can get confusing. Lol It sure can. It's one of the reasons I have so many rods. I am trying to find one in the Goldilocks zone, not to light, no to heavy, just right...to me. Quote
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