Two piece ultralight rods

[EGbassing]

Ok, last question about ultralights. I'm about to buy one but I want to be able to take it on vacation this year so I'm thinking about getting a two piece, but I recall hearing that two piece rods don't bend as well as the one piece alternative. With a MH rod or something I wouldn't be concerned about it, but an ultralight bends so far that it seems like it could be a problem. Is that true, or should I not worry about it?

[jimmyjoe]

1 hour ago, EGbassing said:

Ok, last question about ultralights. I'm about to buy one but I want to be able to take it on vacation this year so I'm thinking about getting a two piece, but I recall hearing that two piece rods don't bend as well as the one piece alternative. With a MH rod or something I wouldn't be concerned about it, but an ultralight bends so far that it seems like it could be a problem. Is that true, or should I not worry about it?

  I have a 7' 2-pc Eagle UL from Fenwick. They say it's "moderate" action. It is; it bends almost like a wet noodle. (I exaggerate!) I've used it for 2 years, and caught everything from bluegill to pike. It does fine. Rod technology nowadays can make a joint that you'll never feel and maybe not even see. So don't worry about it. Go catch fish and have fun!   jj

[Loomis13]

what jimmy said. or joe? 

[islandbass]

13 hours ago, EGbassing said:

Ok, last question about ultralights. I'm about to buy one but I want to be able to take it on vacation this year so I'm thinking about getting a two piece, but I recall hearing that two piece rods don't bend as well as the one piece alternative. With a MH rod or something I wouldn't be concerned about it, but an ultralight bends so far that it seems like it could be a problem. Is that true, or should I not worry about it?

Hog wash. This is not the 1800s, lol. As long as the two piece rod you buy is from a reputable company like Fenwick (and I almost bought that model but managed to repair my 7’ okuma celilo so I didn’t have to buy it) or okuma then you should be good to go. 

[NYWayfarer]

7 hours ago, BaitFinesse said:

As long as it has a a spigot joint then it will be fine.  I like the Kuying Teton off Aliexpress.  Full Fuji componets for $50.  

I agree, try and find something with a spigot joint.

 

My Kastking Calamus has has a spigot joint and I have had no issues with it. Great ultra light rod. Used it for Trout fishing and a little Bass fishing as well.

 

 

 

[EGbassing]

1 hour ago, NYWayfarer said:

I agree, try and find something with a spigot joint.

 

My Kastking Calamus has has a spigot joint and I have had no issues with it. Great ultra light rod. Used it for Trout fishing and a little Bass fishing as well.

 

 

 

What is a spigot joint exactly? Do you think this rod would have that?: https://***/2RLIOgB 

[EGbassing]

Extra question, do longer rods make fighting the fish less or more fun? It looks like they bend less than shorter ones in videos but I have no experience with this kind of thing so I don't know. I really just want a rod that makes bluegills feel like 10 pound bass. ?

[NYWayfarer]

1 hour ago, EGbassing said:

What is a spigot joint exactly? Do you think this rod would have that?: https://***/2RLIOgB 

A spigot joint is associated with 2 piece rods. The two pieces will not fit together completely on a spigot joint.

 

 

The Ambition rod in your link is a 1 piece rod.

[EGbassing]

1 hour ago, NYWayfarer said:

A spigot joint is associated with 2 piece rods. The two pieces will not fit together completely on a spigot joint.

 

 

The Ambition rod in your link is a 1 piece rod.

Thanks. Isn't there a two piece option in that link?

[NYWayfarer]

Didn't see one for the ultralight version. I could be mistaken.

 

Seeing how that is a combo aimed at youth anglers I doubt it will have a spigot joint. I can see a kid forcing the two pieces together, hell some adults do that.

[onenutinthewater]

Another vote for the Kuying Teton. The 642UL will make the small fish feel like monsters! Incredible quality for a $60 rod.

[GateToWire]

I have an ultra light 2 piece, 6'4" St. Croix Trout series rod and occasionally when I am trout fishing I will hook a bass. I have not had any problem with it overbending, with the 2 piece connection or anything else. I'm always careful with that rod, to begin with because it feels so light compared to my Dobyns bass rods.

You should be fine with using something light and 2 piece for travel

[MN Fisher]

16 hours ago, EGbassing said:

but an ultralight bends so far that it seems like it could be a problem

It's not the power of the rod that determines how much of it bends, it's the action.

XF - pretty much just the tip between the last guide and the tip-top bends over quite a bit before the rest of the rod slowly starts bending

S - most of the rod is involved in the bend giving it a smoother arc

 

Article here on BR does some more explaining - https://www.bassresource.com/fishing/rod-actions-power.html

 

I've used my UL-Ugly Stick for years - 5', 2 piece, spigot joint - without an issue against 1# Bluegills up to 3# LMBs - even a couple 3#-4# Northern Pike.

[haggard]

Modern 2 piece should be fine and is a great choice for travel plus making the small fish more fun.

 

Mine's a St.C PS56ULF2 (5'6" UF/Fast). Only gripe is it doesn't cast too far but then it rarely needs to and what do you expect from a 5'6". I like the shorter length because it's great in tight spaces from the bank (less chance of snagging a tree) and I find anything north of 6'0 on an ultralight to be too noodly.

 

Dinks and crappie are a lot of fun on it. As far as bend/weak points, never a problem and that includes landing an unexpected and rather chunky largemouth on it once from the kayak. Rod was bent way over and it was a blast!

 

I wouldn't recommend lifting a big bass out of the water with the ultralight, just to be safe.

 

 

[EGbassing]

4 minutes ago, haggard said:

Modern 2 piece should be fine and is a great choice for travel plus making the small fish more fun.

 

Mine's a St.C PS56ULF2 (5'6" UF/Fast). Only gripe is it doesn't cast too far but then it rarely needs to and what do you expect from a 5'6". I like the shorter length because it's great in tight spaces from the bank (less chance of snagging a tree) and I find anything north of 6'0 on an ultralight to be too noodly.

 

Dinks and crappie are a lot of fun on it. As far as bend/weak points, never a problem and that includes landing an unexpected and rather chunky largemouth on it once from the kayak. Rod was bent way over and it was a blast!

 

I wouldn't recommend lifting a big bass out of the water with the ultralight, just to be safe.

 

 

That's a nice bass. So you think the longer rods bend more? 

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, EGbassing said:

That's a nice bass. So you think the longer rods bend more? 

Most of that depends on the action - take the case of 2 Fast Action rods that I own

 

5' UL Ugly Stick - the action is mainly centered on the top quarter of the rod - so 1.25' (15"). That section will become almost a 90 degree curve before the rest of the rod follows.

 

6'6" ML Avocet - again, the top quarter of the rod, in this case 1.625' (19.5"). Again, almost a 90 degree curve before the rest starts following. But given it's a slightly more powerful rod (ML vs UL) the bending of the rest occurs slower, but it still happens.

 

So yes, a longer rod will bend more - just because more length is available for the Action of the rod to take place.

[jimmyjoe]

3 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

 

So yes, a longer rod will bend more - just because more length is available for the Action of the rod to take place.

   ^^^^^   What he said.   jj

[redmeansdistortion]

On 2/7/2019 at 1:30 PM, onenutinthewater said:

Another vote for the Kuying Teton. The 642UL will make the small fish feel like monsters! Incredible quality for a $60 rod.

That rod is on my short list for my new brookie rig.  Oh yeah, hello fellow steelheader!

[fishwizzard]

23 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said:

2 pc or 1 pc rods?  I know there is a 1pc version of the Teon 66L that sells for $100 free shipping on Aliexpress.  My guess is the additional shipping costs for the 1 pc rod are baked into the higher retail.

 

If it is $100 for a 2 pc Teton then that is bs but not unreasonable given that it is better than most $100 rods in build quality.  Hopefully the prices stay low on Aliexpress.  

It seems to be a jumble of their rods:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KUYING-TETON-Super-Ultra-Light-Baitcasting-Spinning-Rods-Various-Sizes-Weigh/132949565094?hash=item1ef4695ea6:m:mxot6XhIlYSjnd3VIru5ZKQ:rk:1:pf:0

 

It also seems like they are mostly $125 now :/

 

 

 

 

[onenutinthewater]

8 hours ago, redmeansdistortion said:

That rod is on my short list for my new brookie rig.  Oh yeah, hello fellow steelheader!

Shhhh. I'm a bass guy! I hear them steelhead fishes don't really fight anyhow........?

 

[redmeansdistortion]

7 hours ago, onenutinthewater said:

Shhhh. I'm a bass guy! I hear them steelhead fishes don't really fight anyhow........?

 

At least they taste good

[scupbaron]

Take a look at 2 piece Diawa Spinmatic rods, hard to be beat for price IMO  ...great feel and quality .  ....40 bucks i believe they sell for.  

[Subaqua Adinterim]

8 hours ago, scupbaron said:

Take a look at 2 piece Diawa Spinmatic rods, hard to be beat for price IMO  ...great feel and quality .  ....40 bucks i believe they sell for.  

If you are looking in this direction, I would recommend spending an extra $25 to step up to the Diawa Presso.  I have an 8', 2pc. that I use and really like.  They also sell shorter and longer 2 pc. ultra light set ups.

Good luck in your decision.

[The Short Fisherman]

I have an two piece ultralight and it works just fine, its super sensitive and also durable. For ultralights i don't like a rod too long because I'm usually using them in creeks where there may not be to much space to cast, so I prefer a 6'6 rod

[Subaqua Adinterim]

Something approximately 6'6" in length is a good all around choice if you only have one UL.  I have a few in that length which are good for use on a kayak as well as on shore with brush near the banks.  I have longer ULs to use from piers or in areas where I have room to cast farther from shore. Would recommend around 6'6" or so for your starter rod in UL.