Hawkeye21 Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, EWREX said: how on earth could you say not worry about it? it's literally so easy to bypass the rule in a LOT of different ways. Why would I let something like that worry me? I'm just a spectator being entertained by them catching fish and learning from them. If anyone were to be concerned it would be the anglers and the people in charge. I would guess the consequences are big enough to prevent anyone from attempting it. Just now, jbsoonerfan said: I agree, I bet KVD has already committed to a jerkbait. Thanks! I didn't realize they were fishing 2 rounds, GO ANDY MONTGOMERY!!!! He's going to need a huge day 2 to make the cut. Quote
EWREX Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Why would I let something like that worry me? I'm just a spectator being entertained by them catching fish and learning from them. If anyone were to be concerned it would be the anglers and the people in charge. I would guess the consequences are big enough to prevent anyone from attempting it. He's going to need a huge day 2 to make the cut. it's about integrity of the sport. but i guess you're right and i'm wrong Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted January 29, 2019 Super User Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: He's going to need a huge day 2 to make the cut. LOL, I know, I was being facetious. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, EWREX said: it's about integrity of the sport. but i guess you're right and i'm wrong I understand that but that can be said with every sport there is. There can always be cheaters and ways around the rules. I'm putting my trust in the people running the tourney that they have gone over circumstances like that. I guess we'll find out but it doesn't really bother me at all. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted January 29, 2019 Super User Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, EWREX said: it's about integrity of the sport. but i guess you're right and i'm wrong I don't think either of you are right or wrong. You both make valid points. I like to think of fishermen as stand up guys, especially at the pro level. So I hope for the sake of things they aren't in any way going to attempt to "cheat". Quote
EWREX Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I understand that but that can be said with every sport there is. There can always be cheaters and ways around the rules. I'm putting my trust in the people running the tourney that they have gone over circumstances like that. I guess we'll find out but it doesn't really bother me at all. cheaters in every sport! hopefully everyone puts together a fair string of tournaments. i wasn't a fan of major league fishing AT ALL, and after watching today's broadcast, i'm definitely reconsidering my thoughts on it Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, EWREX said: cheaters in every sport! hopefully everyone puts together a fair string of tournaments. i wasn't a fan of major league fishing AT ALL, and after watching today's broadcast, i'm definitely reconsidering my thoughts on it I loved the live coverage and few interruptions. Really enjoy hearing them talk about what they're thinking and what they're doing. I like seeing what they are using and why. I even enjoyed the commentary breaking down what they're doing, why they're doing it and where they are. So cool. Quote
GReb Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 Plenty of wives are eager for those big paychecks. Burner phones make it easy. Just like college football recruiting 1 Quote
Troy85 Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 I like it so far. One thing I wish is that the commentators wouldn't talk over the anglers though, there were many times when the pros were talking about technique or fish positioning, but you couldn't really hear much of what they were saying over the commentators. I'm sure they will work it all out though, for its debut show, I'd say it was a success. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted January 29, 2019 Super User Posted January 29, 2019 Most big tournament organizations utilize polygraph tests to make sure the winners didn't do anything they weren't supposed to do, I'm sure MLF will be no different. 2 Quote
EWREX Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jrob78 said: Most big tournament organizations utilize polygraph tests to make sure the winners didn't do anything they weren't supposed to do, I'm sure MLF will be no different. interesting, i did not know that Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 29, 2019 Super User Posted January 29, 2019 Add to the usual punishments for cheating in tournaments, you are also risking you're license, depending on the activity. Many states have reciprocity rules, as well. You lose your rights to fish in one state, you lose them in several. 1 Quote
BassNJake Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, EWREX said: interesting, i did not know that A couple years ago Luke Clausen made the top 12 in an Elite series event. They polygraphed all the final day competitors and Luke had an answer that flagged the test. He was asked if he received any outside information and he replied no. When they questioned him some more he recalled waiting to be seated for dinner when a local. started talking about where to go on the lake and what he uses. Luke told him that he was not allowed to get any outside information and the 1 sided conversation ended. Luke appealed the issue and appeals are brought to a BASS executive, a former Elite series angler and a current Elite series angler. All voted for Luke to be disqualified. Their reasoning was even though Luke considered the information not meaningful, he doesn't get to decide that so he should have reported the issue. I believe they reported that if he would have answered yes on the polygraph, his explanation would have been accepted and he would not have been disqualified. By not disclosing the information from the beginning, it cost him in the end. I watched on and off and liked the coverage. They will need to work out a few kinks but overall I'd say it was a big success. I personally did not like the social media lady. Something about her voice bugged me. Quote
ryanerb Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 Quote Ok guys, I'm open to getting informed because maybe I haven't done enough research on all the rules... BUT.... Won't group 2 have an advantage knowing how things went for group 1 today?? They maybe know what was working, what wasn't working, etc. Thoughts?? Sorry guys, this was discussed earlier, I skimmed the thread, but didn't look through it all...sorry! Quote
MittenMouth Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ryanerb said: Ok guys, I'm open to getting informed because maybe I haven't done enough research on all the rules... BUT.... Won't group 2 have an advantage knowing how things went for group 1 today?? They maybe know what was working, what wasn't working, etc. Thoughts?? Whatever you do, don’t read any of the posts before yours on this thread. 3 5 Quote
OCdockskipper Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 5 hours ago, GReb said: Plenty of wives are eager for those big paychecks... I believe the saying goes "Behind every cheater is a wife with a credit card"... 1 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted January 30, 2019 Author Global Moderator Posted January 30, 2019 7 hours ago, EWREX said: how on earth could you say not worry about it? it's literally so easy to bypass the rule in a LOT of different ways. There's a reason golf is called "the gentleman's game" true gentleman play the game and 'trust' eachother to police themselves. Cheaters happen in ever game but in a true game such as fishing and especially golf gentleman penalize themselves you see it all the time in golf, and you've seen Brandon Palanuik and a couple other penalize themselves. 1 Quote
punch Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 I'm really annoyed they don't have the live replay up anywhere. What about those of us who couldn't watch it all afternoon and want to catch up? I was hoping to sit and watch a replay tonight... but alas it's no where to be found. 2 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted January 30, 2019 Super User Posted January 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, punch said: I'm really annoyed they don't have the live replay up anywhere. What about those of us who couldn't watch it all afternoon and want to catch up? I was hoping to sit and watch a replay tonight... but alas it's no where to be found. Well, I have a lot more going on in my life to be annoyed about, but I would like to be able to watch it as well. I only got to watch a handful of it. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 30, 2019 Global Moderator Posted January 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, punch said: I'm really annoyed they don't have the live replay up anywhere. What about those of us who couldn't watch it all afternoon and want to catch up? I was hoping to sit and watch a replay tonight... but alas it's no where to be found. Yes, working midnights I was stuck watching a little of the beginning and having to stop so I could sleep. Almost smacked myself in the face with my phone a couple times because I was laying in bed watching it and falling asleep. 2 Quote
punch Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 https://majorleaguefishing.com/bass-pro-tour/bass-pro-tour-stage-one-shotgun-round-1-live-stream/ Now it's up Quote
ryanerb Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 14 hours ago, MittenMouth said: Whatever you do, don’t read any of the posts before yours on this thread. I skimmed it but didn't thoroughly read it. Thanks for the response, I screwed up! Thanks... Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 I was just thinking of all the people I see posting on social media about their worry for anglers on their day off watching and gaining an advantage. I don't see how they gain an advantage over the day 1 guys since Group A and Group B don't go up against each other until day 5. The weights start over on day 5 as well. By that time everyone has been on the water the same amount and I don't think there should be any advantages. Quote
ryanerb Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I was just thinking of all the people I see posting on social media about their worry for anglers on their day off watching and gaining an advantage. I don't see how they gain an advantage over the day 1 guys since Group A and Group B don't go up against each other until day 5. The weights start over on day 5 as well. By that time everyone has been on the water the same amount and I don't think there should be any advantages. Group 2 doesn't gain advantage over Group 1, but Group 2 gains advantage over other guys in Group 2. If one guy in Group 2 finds out a jerkbait is the hot bait, he could beat other group 2 guys that never got that piece of information, etc. Quote
GReb Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 Dustin Connell has only caught one fish today and he is sharing a condo with Wheeler and MDJ who both advanced yesterday. So that if Connell received tips they ain’t helping him lol Quote
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