kenmitch Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, livin2fish said: Glenn's thread is interesting to me. Years ago when BR was much smaller, a sad fisherman started a thread. He had fishing rods, reels and other fishing stuff stolen from his vehicle while it was parked and he was fishing from his boat. He later noticed on ebay the entire lot "of his stuff" as a sale item. Could he prove it as his? Nope. As a result of this particular thread, I have never used ebay. I try to use local stores, that sell American made, then big box stores like TW, and the advertisers on BR. So it costs me a little more. Just means that this retired person will have to go to the poor house a little sooner than later. That would really suck! I'm sure it was really upsetting to him and other members of this site. There are a lot of reputable companies that sell both on the Web and on eBay. I don't buy all my stuff on eBay, but if I can save $30-$50 on a reel or rod buying it from a reputable seller I will. At times additional eBay promos even make the savings greater than the everyday lower pricing that the big sellers on eBay already have. Is there a list of official sponsors of this site? Quote
KDW96 Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 I never do ebay. And ill never have paypal. To many high fees. I only buy from TW, Barlow, etc. I would buy more from the flea market, but theres to many that only do paypal. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, KDW96 said: I never do ebay. And ill never have paypal. To many high fees. I only buy from TW, Barlow, etc. I would buy more from the flea market, but theres to many that only do paypal. Too many high fees for what? It doesn't cost you anything extra when you buy stuff using PayPal. 2 Quote
Russ E Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 5 hours ago, KDW96 said: I never do ebay. And ill never have paypal. To many high fees. I only buy from TW, Barlow, etc. I would buy more from the flea market, but theres to many that only do paypal. I find this post interesting. Like @Hawkeye21 mentioned, not sure what you are talking about with fees. there are no fees with paypal. Some people will not buy online if a business does not accept paypal. What is better? To give everyone you do business with, on the internet, your credit card info. or just giving your info to paypal and let them take care of your transaction. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 19, 2019 Super User Posted January 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Too many high fees for what? It doesn't cost you anything extra when you buy stuff using PayPal. I use to be a seller on E-Bay using Paypal to accept payment. Paypal charges a fee to the seller for each transaction. This is a percent and it changes based on the amount of the transaction. This is how they make their money. So for everything you find on E-Bay, you can probably find it cheaper elsewhere as the E-Bay sellers mark up their prices to account for the Paypal fee. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: I use to be a seller on E-Bay using Paypal to accept payment. Paypal charges a fee to the seller for each transaction. This is a percent and it changes based on the amount of the transaction. This is how they make their money. So for everything you find on E-Bay, you can probably find it cheaper elsewhere as the E-Bay sellers mark up their prices to account for the Paypal fee. I think almost everyone understands that PayPal charges the selling a fee but we're not talking about sellers, we're talking about us purchasing product and it doesn't cost us anything extra. It cost sellers a fee when PayPay, credit cards or any finance companies are used to make a purchase. It's the cost of running a business. 2 Quote
The Bassman Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 17 hours ago, bassh8er said: I buy almost all my fishing stuff on eBay and have nothing but good experiences and saved a TON of money from anywhere else you could find the same items. Same here. I'm waiting right now for the mailman to bring me a new Zodias that I got 30.00 under retail from a legit seller. 1 Quote
deadadrift89 Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 I use Ebay and PayPal. Several retail stores use Ebay and theirs also reputable individual sellers, just have to be careful and its another reason I only use PayPal on Ebay. Found many great deals over the years. Regarding PayPal I prefer to use it over any other payment method on all sites. 2 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted January 19, 2019 Super User Posted January 19, 2019 I was a bit reluctant at first, but now have upwards of 400 transactions via eBay and PayPal, both buying and selling of fishing items, and don't think I've had a single instance of fraud. Worst thing at this point have been "used" items that didn't quite live up to their condition description, but hasn't happened too often. Just got a "like new" Shimano Cardiff off eBay last week for 20% less than retail, plus free shipping and no sales tax. I try to cap my limit on purchases at a couple hundred to avoid any big ripoff potential though. 1 Quote
GReb Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 I don’t understand a lot of ebay sells. More often than not people pay more for used items on eBay than new items on other sites. I literally just watched a used kistler rod go for more than the same rod brand new on kistlers website. Yesterday a used Curado K went for $10 more than new ones from other ebay sellers. I stopped selling on ebay because their fees ate up nearly all of the profit margin Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted January 19, 2019 Super User Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 12:55 PM, Glenn said: Here's the main reason why I don't buy items off Ebay: http://www.ifiberone.com/columbia_basin/east-wenatchee-man-reportedly-linked-to-more-than-retail-thefts/article_0bccabe6-1b4e-11e9-98e3-ef08da4302d3.html The dude has been stealing items and selling them on Ebay. If you look at the picture, you'll see a lot of PowerPro line in the stash of stolen items. This is by far not the first time somebody has been caught stealing fishing gear and reselling them on Ebay. There was even an instance years ago when a BassResource member was doing it - for years! He was a "trusted" seller on Ebay, and an active, "trusted" member here and on other fishing forums. All while trafficking tens of thousands of dollars worth of stolen merchandise. So with everything the old adage applies: If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Yes. Fishing tackle began to be specifically targeted about the time EB became a thing. It's one of the reasons why I don't participate in the "Show us your stuff" threads. I used to do a fair amount of buy n sell, prior to EB. My mom was an antiques dealer, back in the day when antiques were both popular and profitable. I handled fishing stuff, and have some fun stories about it. EB came along and made it easy. And with easy, and incognito, comes the darker side. I won't NOT use EB. But I do protect the stuff I do have. Quote
YoTone Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 im sure theres a few stolen items that have been listed for sale here on this site too. Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted January 19, 2019 Super User Posted January 19, 2019 There is no denying the appeal of EBay when dealing with a reputable seller. If you time things right it’s like hitting a jackpot at Vegas. For example I saw the Lew’s Mach Crush combo on sale combined with a EBay 20% off code made the combo half retail price. Christmas gift money well spent. Do your research, stick with reputable companies and use PayPal and EBay is fine. 2 Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 3 hours ago, GReb said: I don’t understand a lot of ebay sells. More often than not people pay more for used items on eBay than new items on other sites. I literally just watched a used kistler rod go for more than the same rod brand new on kistlers website. Yesterday a used Curado K went for $10 more than new ones from other ebay sellers. I stopped selling on ebay because their fees ate up nearly all of the profit margin It's up to the buyer to do their own research. Too many times people blame the seller for when they get taken advantage of when the buyer didn't do his research first. Reminds me of all the people complaining about buying the Lowrance Hook2 7x fish finder. A lot of the negatives were because they didn't know it had maps with it or the ability to add them. Due diligence. I also see people spending more on Facebook auctions than they could buy directly from the maker. 2 Quote
KDW96 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Too many high fees for what? It doesn't cost you anything extra when you buy stuff using PayPal. 8 hours ago, Russ E said: I find this post interesting. Like @Hawkeye21 mentioned, not sure what you are talking about with fees. there are no fees with paypal. Some people will not buy online if a business does not accept paypal. What is better? To give everyone you do business with, on the internet, your credit card info. or just giving your info to paypal and let them take care of your transaction. My statement about fee issues, were in regard to ebay. So sorry i messed up........... Quote
deadadrift89 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's up to the buyer to do their own research. Too many times people blame the seller for when they get taken advantage of when the buyer didn't do his research first. Reminds me of all the people complaining about buying the Lowrance Hook2 7x fish finder. A lot of the negatives were because they didn't know it had maps with it or the ability to add them. Due diligence. I also see people spending more on Facebook auctions than they could buy directly from the maker. So true !! Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, KDW96 said: My statement about fee issues, were in regard to ebay. So sorry i messed up........... Ebay or not, are you talking about selling or buying? You don't get charged when buying. As for people thinking it's just an Ebay thing, go look at Seaguar fishing line on Amazon and read the reviews. Lots of comments about respooled or rebranded line with the label on it. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 I bought a brand new Curado K for $119. The same seller had about 15 reels listed. I always go to "newly listed" option and "buy it now" to see if there are any deals. I bought the reel and started looking at his other reels. They were amazing prices and all stock photos. I saved a couple of them and they were all sold within a coupe hours. He only had like 13 as his feedback at the time. Maybe the reels were stolen, maybe not. But I got a good deal. I look out for me and don't concern myself with others. 1 Quote
fin Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: As for people thinking it's just an Ebay thing, go look at Seaguar fishing line on Amazon and read the reviews. Lots of comments about respooled or rebranded line with the label on it. Seaguar quit level-winding their spools and everyone freaked. There's a thread about it here. Someone contacted Searguar about it and they were told by Searguar they no longer level-wind. It's very questionable, if not totally false, that the line in question is "respooled or rebranded". You can get a bad product on Amazon just like anywhere else, but that's not a good example. Quote
KDW96 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Ebay or not, are you talking about selling or buying? You don't get charged when buying. OK, I messed up again. I was talkin about the selling side. I just domt think as well as most,after having 2 strokes. I will try to be moer acurite in future post. My apologies to everyone. Quote
Russ E Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 13 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said: I bought a brand new Curado K for $119. The same seller had about 15 reels listed. I always go to "newly listed" option and "buy it now" to see if there are any deals. I bought the reel and started looking at his other reels. They were amazing prices and all stock photos. I saved a couple of them and they were all sold within a coupe hours. He only had like 13 as his feedback at the time. Maybe the reels were stolen, maybe not. But I got a good deal. I look out for me and don't concern myself with others. You honestly don't care if you are buying stolen goods? Wow! Quote
punch Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 11:21 AM, MN Fisher said: I use to be a seller on E-Bay using Paypal to accept payment. Paypal charges a fee to the seller for each transaction. This is a percent and it changes based on the amount of the transaction. This is how they make their money. So for everything you find on E-Bay, you can probably find it cheaper elsewhere as the E-Bay sellers mark up their prices to account for the Paypal fee. Anytime you sell something on ebay just factor in 13% for fee's. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Russ E said: You honestly don't care if you are buying stolen goods? Wow! I wouldn't buy it if I knew beforehand. But if I can get a deal be it on eBay, here or anywhere else for that matter, I am not going to worry about it. I certainly am not going to pay full retail when I can save $60 on a reel. Do you ever eat a steak and worry about if the meat was stolen? Because I know a restaurant around where I grew up that got caught stealing steaks. 1 1 Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 4 hours ago, KDW96 said: OK, I messed up again. I was talkin about the selling side. I just domt think as well as most,after having 2 strokes. I will try to be moer acurite in future post. My apologies to everyone. No worries. Quote
MittenMouth Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 This completely generalizes the eBay community. By your same token you probably shouldn’t use internet message boards because they play a role in human trafficking.... Quote
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