Buffdaddy54 Posted December 22, 2018 Posted December 22, 2018 Need some advice, I've got a 6:3:1 and a 7:3:1 ratio Baitcaster and have been thinking about an 8 but not sure it's really necessary from the bank. Thinking of that or buying another 7. What are some of your opinions? Thanks BTW Bait monkey ? bit me so I'm definitely getting something? Quote
CroakHunter Posted December 22, 2018 Posted December 22, 2018 I'm a fan of 8:1 gear ratio reels. Quote
Dirtyeggroll Posted December 22, 2018 Posted December 22, 2018 You also need a 5, a 9 and a 10. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 23, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 23, 2018 I like the high ratio reels for bottom contact baits. It helps catch up with fast moving fish and also allows you to quickly reel in to make another cast. Need? No, but they're nice to have. Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted December 23, 2018 Super User Posted December 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: I like the high ratio reels for bottom contact baits. It helps catch up with fast moving fish and also allows you to quickly reel in to make another cast. Need? No, but they're nice to have. Yup Quote
LionHeart Posted December 23, 2018 Posted December 23, 2018 A 7 can do just about everything, but an 8 is what I prefer for trigs and jigs. You need an 8 speed. Quote
junyer357 Posted December 23, 2018 Posted December 23, 2018 I wouldnt get an 8:1 just to have it if you only have 2 other rods/reels. Its more of a designated speed to me for use with baits moved by the rod and take up slack with reel, like worm/jig, jerkbait, and flipping. Id reccomend another 6:1 for general use and diffrent baits on one rod. I have over 20 dedicated use rods now and at least half of them are 6:1. I personally think its the best all around speed for general use in fishing. 1 Quote
kschultz76 Posted December 23, 2018 Posted December 23, 2018 I have a pretty large collection of rods and reels. Personally I haven’t felt the need to get anything faster then a 7.x:1 gear ratio. I think it’s a matter of preference and not need. Years ago something in the 6.x:1 was considered high speed. I have two reels that are 5.x:1 for cranks, then probably 6 reels in a 6.x:1 and 5 I think that are 7.x:1. For me that gives me a lot of versatility and the 7 speeds can still be used for more then just bottom contact and topwater because they’re not too fast. I’ve not lost fish or felt limited by not having an 8 speed or higher. Funny story relative to gear ratios, I was fishing with my Dad a year ago and we were throwing swimjigs into rocky hard shorelines in the late spring. For some reason he was picking up fish and I wasn’t even though I was in the front of the boat. And I asked, what are you doing different then me, then I realized he was using his old Bantam Curado which is a 5.x ratio, and I was using a Chronarch CI4 in a 7.2. I slowed down my retrieve to let that swimjigs bounce along those rocks, and it was game on. Quote
Russ E Posted December 23, 2018 Posted December 23, 2018 where the high speed has shined for me lately, is on my shakyhead rod. In the past I always had trouble catching up with a fish, when using a standard speed real with the shakyhead. the new speed demon spinning reel solved that issue. It is 7.2 to 1, but picks up line at about the same rate as my 9.3 to speed demon pro casting reel. 1 Quote
CrankFate Posted December 23, 2018 Posted December 23, 2018 I don’t know? Just got my first 8 and won’t use it til spring. Not sure I need it though, because a 7 already matches my natural reeling speed. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted December 23, 2018 Super User Posted December 23, 2018 I have a 7.3 to 1 and that's fast enough for me. 1 Quote
LCG Posted December 23, 2018 Posted December 23, 2018 I find it is much easier to slow down than to speed up. I like my 8:1 Daiwa fuego ct. Picks up a good amount of line pretty fast. I believe in inches per turn rather than gear ratios, more realistic measurements and less marketing hype. 1 Quote
5by3 Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 Does it help? It certain situations, yes. Do you need it? Absolutely not. I mostly fish 6.3:1 reels so that I can easily swap them out on any of my combos. Personally, I’ve never really felt like I was at a disadvantage in catching up to a fish with a 6.3:1. I think the higher speed reels tend to shine more when flipping/punching as you can get more flips per hour with a faster gear ratio. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted December 24, 2018 Super User Posted December 24, 2018 For years I traditionally had 6.8, 7.3 and 8’s... as time has gone on and I’ve bought more reels, almost all have been 8.0 or 8.1. I totally agree you can always reel slower if needed, but I frequently get frustrated when the 6.8 doesn’t pick up enough line fast enough.. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 24, 2018 Super User Posted December 24, 2018 Some techniques ~ Yes. I like a faster reel Some techniques ~ Not so much . . . . A-Jay 1 Quote
J.Vincent Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 I found the 8.1 gearing is great for Frog fishing and pitching plastics. With those techniques, the higher speed allows me to make more presentations over the course of an entire day; and statistically improves my chances . But what works for me might not work for you ! 1 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted December 24, 2018 Super User Posted December 24, 2018 I really prefer 8.1 as I am naturally slow on the real......especially after a 40 year cast with a jig. The IPT with 120 feet missing is greatly reduced. 1 Quote
Heartland Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 Guess I am a guy stuck in the past. I use 5.1:1 reels for crank baits, I use 6.4:1 reels for just about everything else. I have a few 7.1:1 reels and faster but they are primarily used for pitching jigs or plastics. I have no problem catching fish, with the equipment I have. I could see a faster reel being useful in a few rare situations, but not enough that I am replacing anything. Quote
bigfruits Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 id say yes. i have more 8.x:1 than 6.x:1 reels. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted December 24, 2018 Super User Posted December 24, 2018 11 hours ago, NHBull said: I really prefer 8.1 as I am naturally slow on the real......especially after a 40 year cast with a jig. The IPT with 120 feet missing is greatly reduced. Now that is a long cast. Beats those 100 yard ones by a country mile. 1 Quote
RB 77 Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 Just put an 8.5:1 through the paces down at El Salto. I was nice for fishing T-Rigs and get that slack out quick. Quote
Super User Log Catcher Posted December 24, 2018 Super User Posted December 24, 2018 I don't have anything faster than 6:8:1 or about 28 IPT. It doesn't bother me to have to turn the handle more than 3 times to get my bait back in. Quote
bigfruits Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 man, you gotta try buzzbaits sometime. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 The summer grass beds require plastics fishing, they can't be too fast for me. Quote
Janderson45 Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 I use an 8 speed for flipping/pitching, football jigs, Carolina Rigs, frogging and shakey heads. Like others have said a 7 would work but an 8 is better. Majority of my reels are 7 speed, but 8, 6, and 5 speed reels all have their place in bass fishing. With only a few rods fishing from the bank I’d probably want a 7 or 8 speed bait caster for workhorse duties, a 6 speed for reaction baits, and a spinning reel for finesse. Should be able to throw most baits effectively from the bank with those 3 setups. Quote
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