Counterfeit Seaguar Invizix?

[Stephen B]

It's awful that people would do this. Do not buy line unless it's from a dealer. If the deal looks too good to pass up usually theres a reason. Pay a little more and pay from a true dealer. 

18 hours ago, Sam said:

Probably not counterfeit but another type of line to fool you.

 

Thinking the same. This isn't Invizx as it's not levelwound but the best thing to do is to compare it and contact the seller and Amazon.

[Arcs&sparks]

Judging by OP’s pic and the tackle warehouse pic, which don’t sport the level wind logo, they must make a spool that’s not levelwound..

[kschultz76]

Tackle Supply Depot has some fantastic prices on many brands and types of line right now. Like Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo for $12 a spool. 

 

Sucks you you have to deal with this, but glad Amazon fixed you up with a refund. 

[WRB]

1 hour ago, kschultz76 said:

Tackle Supply Depot has some fantastic prices on many brands and types of line right now. Like Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo for $12 a spool. 

 

Sucks you you have to deal with this, but glad Amazon fixed you up with a refund. 

$11.69 a spool with Zero available.

Tom

[kschultz76]

10 hours ago, WRB said:

$11.69 a spool with Zero available.

Tom

Better look again, states very clearly on their website that they have every size of that line in stock and available. I’m not in the habit of posting misleading info here. 

[WRB]

1 hour ago, kschultz76 said:

Better look again, states very clearly on their website that they have every size of that line in stock and available. I’m not in the habit of posting misleading info here. 

Thank you, wil try contacting them,

Tom

[kschultz76]

36 minutes ago, WRB said:

Thank you, wil try contacting them,

Tom

I’ve purchased from them before and gotten great service. 

[kenmitch]

2 minutes ago, kschultz76 said:

I’ve purchased from them before and gotten great service. 

Thanks! Good to hear as I wound up ordering some stuff from them. I used paypal just in case.

 

Been looking for some line for my new swimbait combo and couldn't make up my mind. Wound up ordering a couple of options and some treble hooks to upgrade some lipless baits. They do have a 20% off code HOLIDAY for regular priced items if you need some fillers to get free or cheaper priority shipping.

 

Guess I'll make up my mind which line I'll use when they get here. 

 

 

As far as the original topic of the thread. I would have also questioned and returned that spool of line. I tend to only buy items on Amazon that are sold and shipped by Amazon. Sometimes I'll deviate and purchase items that are fulfilled by Amazon and sold by another seller. 

[fin]

On 12/17/2018 at 11:23 PM, FishTank said:

I purchased a 1000 yard spool of 12lb Seaguar Invizx from Amazon and it does not look like what I have purchased in the past. It doesn't look like it is spooled  very well and there is no Seaquar silver sticker.  Also, there is no level wind logo on the front.  The line seems like it's FC but it's hard to tell for sure. Can any of you guys tell if this is fake?

There's no "level wind" logo next to the bar code. Some have it and some don't. I don't know if there's a different UPC.

[OnthePotomac]

There are bulk spools which are not level wound, but with on line shopping you cannot see what is coming.  I lucked out and my 1000 yd spool of 15lb  Invizx from Amazon was level wound and came with a heavy plastic snap on shield over the line.  I have purchased countless items from them for the boat.  My wife lives out of Amazon and their return policy is incredible and when you go on line for a return label you can tell them why it is coming back.  I slap the label on the box, call UPS and they zip by and pick it up.  Real easy to return.

[ChrisD46]

On ‎12‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 10:57 AM, A-Jay said:

Don't know what that is - but it looks like a mess.

A little more that 1/2 price - perhaps too good to be true

I'd be returning that one ASAP.

A-Jay

+1 with A-Jay , that can't be factory line from Seaguar as it looks like it was wound on from a small powered line winder ... *From the sister company "See-Gar" in China , this line only used once in the Yellow River for Perch fishing . All kidding aside , Amazon has been known to be bitten by semi - shady suppliers . As large as Amazon is and as fast as they are growing - It's difficult for them to vet all suppliers 100% .

[FishTank]

So am I finally got a response to the email and pics I sent to Seaguar.  

 

Here is my email

 

I believe I received some counterfeit Seaguar Invisix. How can I tell? I ordered it from Amazon. The spool has a label but no level wind logo and there is no silver seaguar logo line tape holder like my old spool.

 

Here is their response

 

 

Thank you for informing us about your concern regarding the change in spooling of the 1000yd Seaguar fluorocarbon fishing line.  Please rest assured that this change has not affected the performance or quality of the Seaguar fishing line that you know from us.  Before making this change, we conducted numerous tests across several different fishing applications that resulted with no issues in overall quality.  The strength, abrasion resistance, softness, castability, stretch, and line memory are all intact.

 

Thank you for support in Seaguar.

 

 

Sounds like I got the real thing but they chose to change the packaging and level winding the line.  

 

 

 

[tander]

I was watching a fishing you tube and he was talking about this. Seems like this is how they do it now.

[A-Jay]

1 hour ago, FishTank said:

So am I finally got a response to the email and pics I sent to Seaguar.  

 

Here is my email

 

I believe I received some counterfeit Seaguar Invisix. How can I tell? I ordered it from Amazon. The spool has a label but no level wind logo and there is no silver seaguar logo line tape holder like my old spool.

 

Here is their response

 

 

Thank you for informing us about your concern regarding the change in spooling of the 1000yd Seaguar fluorocarbon fishing line.  Please rest assured that this change has not affected the performance or quality of the Seaguar fishing line that you know from us.  Before making this change, we conducted numerous tests across several different fishing applications that resulted with no issues in overall quality.  The strength, abrasion resistance, softness, castability, stretch, and line memory are all intact.

 

Thank you for support in Seaguar.

 

 

Sounds like I got the real thing but they chose to change the packaging and level winding the line.  

 

 

 

 

54 minutes ago, tander said:

I was watching a fishing you tube and he was talking about this. Seems like this is how they do it now.

I got the same email from Seaguar - had gone to spam - after seeing this one I went to check it and it was there.

I had re-ordered 2 ea 200yds spools of 25lb and another 1000yd spool of 20 lb from TW during the clearance sale last month.  The 25lb spools arrived in the factory sealed box I'm accustomed to.  The 1000yd spool of 20lb was also in a factory sealed 'package' BUT was NOT on the spool in the "Level wind" condition every previously ordered bulk spool I ordered was.

 Either way, seems it's the same line. 

Wonder why they stopped level winding it ?

A-Jay

 

[kschultz76]

Thanks FishTank and A-Jay for updating this thread with what you heard from Seaguar.

[A-Jay]

1 minute ago, kschultz76 said:

Thanks FishTank and A-Jay for updating this thread with what you heard from Seaguar.

For what it's worth - unless they provide me a reason to stop using their products, I'll continue to do so.

If it turns out to be a debacle - you'll know right after I do.

A-Jay

[FishTank]

19 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

 

I got the same email from Seaguar - had gone to spam - after seeing this one I went to check it and it was there.

I had re-ordered 2 ea 200yds spools of 25lb and another 1000yd spool of 20 lb from TW during the clearance sale last month.  The 25lb spools arrived in the factory sealed box I'm accustomed to.  The 1000yd spool of 20lb was also in a factory sealed 'package' BUT was NOT on the spool in the "Level wind" condition every previously ordered bulk spool I ordered was.

 Either way, seems it's the same line. 

Wonder why they stopped level winding it ?

A-Jay

 

 

Odd thing is, when I first received it and asked Amazon for a refund, which they gave me, I never received any info on what to do with the spool I had so I called them.  After being on hold with someone for about 15 min. so they could talk to a supervisor, they said to keep it.   Two weeks go by and another spool showed up that I did not order.  I called and they said it was to replace the one I had that was bad but it was exactly the same as the first.  I asked if I was being charged and they said no it was an exchange.  I then told them I had already received a refund for the original.  They said keep it, no charge.  So now I have two spools for nothing.  Fake, not leveled wind, or even the real thing, I got two 1000 yard spools of line for free.  I have no complaints. 

 

 

[kschultz76]

4 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

For what it's worth - unless they provide me a reason to stop using their products, I'll continue to do so.

If it turns out to be a debacle - you'll know right after I do.

A-Jay

Totally agree, I’m not turned off to Seaguar by this at all. 

[A-Jay]

1 minute ago, FishTank said:

 

Odd thing is, when I first received it and asked Amazon for a refund, which they gave me, I never received any info on what to do with the spool I had so I called them.  After being on hold with someone for about 15 min. so they could talk to a supervisor, they said to keep it.   Two weeks go by and another spool showed up that I did not order.  I called and they said it was to replace the one I had that was bad but it was exactly the same as the first.  I asked if I was being charged and they said no it was an exchange.  I then told them I had already received a refund for the original.  They said keep it, no charge.  So now I have two spools for nothing.  Fake, not leveled wind, or even the real thing, I got two 1000 yard spools of line for free.  I have no complaints. 

 

 

Sweet - I guess.

 With this new info from Seaguar - seems there is at least a chance, that I may have returned perfectly good line and then re-ordered the exact same thing for 25% more $$$$ 

Not exactly my proudest moment - but I didn't know. 

A-Jay

[tander]

1 hour ago, A-Jay said:

 

Wonder why they stopped level winding it ?

A-Jay

 

Don't know for sure but I bet it has to do with money. ?

[FishTank]

1 hour ago, kschultz76 said:

Totally agree, I’m not turned off to Seaguar by this at all. 

Not turned off either.  I just purchased a spool each of Seaguar's braid and some more Tatsu. 

 

I will have to wait until spring to see how the non-level wind Invizx works out. 

[fishwizzard]

2 hours ago, kschultz76 said:

Totally agree, I’m not turned off to Seaguar by this at all. 

I am not either, but it does beg the question, "If it has no effect, why did the bother doing it in the first place?"

 

I suspect it's cheaper to not lay the line on level but I do kinda believe that it doesn't do much other then look cool.  

[fin]

They ought to update their website if they're going to change the way they do it.

Quote

 

What is Level Wind Technology and why does it make a difference?

 

Only Seaguar has Level Wind Technology in the fluorocarbon market. Level Wind Technology helps: Maintain Strength, Keep line Smoother, and Increase Cast-ability.

 

https://www.seaguar.com/applications/faqs.html

 

[J Francho]

Finally dug mine out.  My 1000 yd. spool looks just like yours.  They sent it to me to test and respond to the new spooling machine.

[CrankFate]

On 12/18/2018 at 11:47 AM, WRB said:

Looks like someone spooled a few reels then returned the line to the seller.

Tom

Sold and shipped by Amazon should be legit. But there’s always the possibility of a return getting reshipped. Trust me, direct from the manufacturer, I got “brand new” used broken washer and dryer pedestals ordered direct from Samsung.com, and they were the newest ones they had.