Super User Munkin Posted December 8, 2018 Super User Posted December 8, 2018 Here is the chatterbait I made where I am trying to duplicate the original Phenix bait. My bait is on the left and the Original Phenix is on the right. My blade I swiped from a chatterbait that was laying around because I needed a black one. Still working on the best way to paint blades black but what does everyone think? Allen 4 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 9, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 9, 2018 Looks good to me! Is the Phenix blade different than the coffin blades you can buy? Have you tried a powder paint gun for painting blades? That's how I do it and the trick is to not overheat them so you only get a very thin coat of paint. About 4-5 seconds is all it takes to heat a side up enough to get the paint to stick. 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 9, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 9, 2018 Phenix blades are a matte black while the Zman are black nickel. Powder painting the blades has been unsuccessful so far for me. Allen Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 11, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 11, 2018 I do mine matte black as well. If you get it just the right temperature it doesn't seem to effect the thickness of the blade or the action at all. Quote
tander Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 You can buy black nickel blades at Barlows. https://www.barlowstackle.com/Shakee-Blades-Black-Nickel-Finish-P3133.aspx Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted December 12, 2018 Super User Posted December 12, 2018 That looks awesome Munkin! If you make too many, don't be afraid to ship a couple north of you... Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 12, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Jigfishn10 said: That looks awesome Munkin! If you make too many, don't be afraid to ship a couple north of you... I will make you a few, what weights and colors are you looking for. Allen 1 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted December 13, 2018 Super User Posted December 13, 2018 I appreciate that and would love to try one out, but I also know that they get expensive to make. I appreciate your offer tho. Those beauties are bomb.com, I'm sure you'll fill the boat, best of luck with them! Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 17, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 17, 2018 Something I made today. Edit since I have so PM's about the bait. This is a fine starflash skirt, copper blade, and Gamakatsu 345 30 Degree swim jig hook. Allen 4 Quote
Logan S Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Nice, I make my own Phenix recreations too. My way is not as inventive as yours though, I just put their blade on their 'swim jig' which comes out to be identical. Almost like they planned it that way . If I wait for sales to buy the components, each one comes out to about the same retail price as other chatters...Which I'm fine with since I'm not setup to pour my own. Can't help with the blade color as I prefer standard gold for the ones I put together. 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 17, 2018 Super User Posted December 17, 2018 Are you guys having to open up the eye a little, or will the blade slip right in? Quote
Logan S Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 You need to open the eye a bit, it's a pain at first but after a couple it's pretty easy. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 17, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Logan S said: Nice, I make my own Phenix recreations too. My way is not as inventive as yours though, I just put their blade on their 'swim jig' which comes out to be identical. Almost like they planned it that way . If I wait for sales to buy the components, each one comes out to about the same retail price as other chatters...Which I'm fine with since I'm not setup to pour my own. Can't help with the blade color as I prefer standard gold for the ones I put together. Definitely not a stock color. Allen 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 17, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, Logan S said: You need to open the eye a bit, it's a pain at first but after a couple it's pretty easy. I bought some build your old Phenix bare heads that had the blade and little wire as a kit. Allen Quote
Iluvsmallies Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I cant see the image??? Did you remove it? Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 17, 2018 Super User Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Logan S said: You need to open the eye a bit, it's a pain at first but after a couple it's pretty easy. Cool. Do you use a punch or pliers? I have tried it a few times on some random jigs I had laying around and did not have a lot of luck with pliers. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 17, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, fishwizzard said: Are you guys having to open up the eye a little, or will the blade slip right in? The ones I make with the blade directly on the wire I pour with the blade on the wire. Had to modify the mold but it works well. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 17, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, fishwizzard said: Cool. Do you use a punch or pliers? I have tried it a few times on some random jigs I had laying around and did not have a lot of luck with pliers. https://www.harborfreight.com/nail-punch-set-3-pc-62686.html Use the green one from this set. Allen Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 17, 2018 Super User Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Munkin said: https://www.harborfreight.com/nail-punch-set-3-pc-62686.html Use the green one from this set. Allen Thanks! Next season I am going to get over my fear of loosing chatterbaits by loosing a bunch of chatterbaits, so the idea of making some up is appealing. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 17, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, fishwizzard said: Thanks! Next season I am going to get over my fear of loosing chatterbaits by loosing a bunch of chatterbaits, so the idea of making some up is appealing. Do you have a way to pour the heads? Allen Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 18, 2018 Super User Posted December 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Munkin said: Do you have a way to pour the heads? Allen No, I was looking at buying the heads and adding the blades and skirts myself. I have never met a laydown that I didn't want to spend an hour casting at and I think the only way I am gonna figure out how to keep a chatterbait from instantly snagging is to snag a bunch of them until I get used to working them through. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 20, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/18/2018 at 9:59 AM, fishwizzard said: No, I was looking at buying the heads and adding the blades and skirts myself. I have never met a laydown that I didn't want to spend an hour casting at and I think the only way I am gonna figure out how to keep a chatterbait from instantly snagging is to snag a bunch of them until I get used to working them through. When the weather gets warmer I will pour you some heads if you want. Allen On 12/17/2018 at 4:59 PM, Iluvsmallies said: I cant see the image??? Did you remove it? Not sure what is going on with your computer but I can see all the images. Allen Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 20, 2018 Super User Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Munkin said: When the weather gets warmer I will pour you some heads if you want. Allen Thanks, I will absolutely take you up on that. I even have a decent stash of lead, although I don't know what alloy/hardness it is. They are old theatrical counterweights and seem pretty soft. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 22, 2018 Author Super User Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 2:47 PM, Jigfishn10 said: I appreciate that and would love to try one out, but I also know that they get expensive to make. I appreciate your offer tho. Those beauties are bomb.com, I'm sure you'll fill the boat, best of luck with them! I still owe you for those Kinami baits you sent me. Allen 1 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted December 22, 2018 Super User Posted December 22, 2018 LOL. @Munkin you got a heck of a memory, I think I forgot about that when I dropped the Kinami’s in the mail. If you got a couple lying around I’d love to try em. Quote
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