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Let me know where you get your weightless deep cycle marine batteries powerful enough to move your all electric boat around prestine remote lakes.

From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.

Tom

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2 minutes ago, WRB said:

From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.

Or a canoe

 

(I look at kayaks and wonder how DO those things not tip over. I know there's a science, but I can't get my head around it...they don't seem deep enough to be stable.)

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My backwater/river boat is a Bass Hunter EX equipped with only a motor guide 32lb thrust electric trolling motor and 2 extra long wooden canoe paddles. I bought the whole deal at a garage sale with trolling motor for $250. I can pull up the motor and paddle while sitting down or just float the river without worrying about the hull. It's a fun deal for skinny backwater and shallow water fishing ,  but it's not going to win any races : )

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29 minutes ago, WRB said:

Let me know where you get your weightless deep cycle marine batteries powerful enough to move your all electric boat around prestine remote lakes.

From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.

Tom

What makes you say that?  A Jon can go several miles on a single charge,  and you can go alone or with a partner, sit or stand, plenty of storage space as well and room for a spare battery just Incase. Affordable and rugged as well. 

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Kayaks are the fasted growing bass boat sector in the country, most kayaker's owned Jon boats before. 

I am not a kayak owner and owned 2 bass boats at the same time most of my life; a fiberglass bass boat and a aluminum boat converted to bass fish with small OB, trolling motor, sonar units and pedistal seats to fish those out of the way small lakes or limited HP and electric lakes. 

I would own a kayak if I could get in and out of it, but I no longer can  do that or launch my aluminum small boat by my self anymore. Still have a bass boat that is easy to luanch and retrieve if a good ramp with a dock is available.

Each to his own, if you all are physically able to lift heavy batteries and heavy boats in and out if the water, put them into a pick up bed, go for it.

Tom

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5 hours ago, WRB said:

Let me know where you get your weightless deep cycle marine batteries powerful enough to move your all electric boat around prestine remote lakes.

From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.

Tom

Weightless? Are you being funny or delusional?

 

As I said,

 

" I ditched the group 27 battery for 3 smaller U1 AGM batteries which I can remove at launch time and reinsert after it's in the water as with all of my other gear."

 

They move my boat through pristine lakes... for over three hours each at up to 4mph with 4 rods, a tackle box, 2 fishermen, a cooler filled with ice, full instrumentation with DF, bilge pump, nav lights, horn, rod holders and more. 

 

My boat is so much superior to a yak in every measureable way any comparison is simply laughable. My minor inconvenience is loading it after dropping it in the water.

 

You want to argue with that? I don't know why you are, but keep on ranting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 12/6/2018 at 11:39 AM, J Francho said:

That's pretty slick, if you're on a place where you can keep it charged (I'm guessing a semi-remote Canadian Shield lake wouldn't cut it)

 

Seems expensive, but: No gas.  Ever.  way fewer moving parts, so maintenance will be low.

 

Double the output, and it'll have a lotta people looking.  I'll be one of 'em.

 

Edited to add: Cut the price in half. Get a 150 HP equivalent motor for $12K and we're in the ballpark.  I run a 140 HP 4 st. on less than $250/year in gas, so 10 years of that is $2500, 20 is $5000.

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23 minutes ago, Further North said:

That's pretty slick, if you're on a place where you can keep it charged (I'm guessing a semi-remote Canadian Shield lake wouldn't cut it)

 

Seems expensive, but: No gas.  Ever.  way fewer moving parts, so maintenance will be low.

 

Double the output, and it'll have a lotta people looking.  I'll be one of 'em.

Looks like Elon Musk is missing the boat on this high performance all electric.

Tom

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22 hours ago, WRB said:

Looks like Elon Musk is missing the boat on this high performance all electric.

Tom

Musk's stuff is impractical for anyone with a normal income who lives away from big cities.

 

...that he appears to running the company into the ground isn't helping.

 

The tech is cool, but not ready for prime time.  Not even close.  All kinds of issues (infrastructure, charging rates/times, charging station availability...)

 

I've thought for a long time that boats, bass fishing boats in particular, would be a perfect test bed for a lot of the technology.

 

We'll see if anyone picks up on that.

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Ponieważ nie mogę powiedzieć różnica między "wzdłuż" i "długi".
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22 hours ago, WRB said:

Looks like Elon Musk is missing the boat on this high performance all electric.

Tom

By the way: Great pun, whether intended or not. ?

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On 12/8/2018 at 12:31 PM, JustALineWetter said:

Or a canoe

 

(I look at kayaks and wonder how DO those things not tip over. I know there's a science, but I can't get my head around it...they don't seem deep enough to be stable.)

You'll flip a canoe MUCH easier than you'll flip a kayak designed for standing and fishing.  I on fact know many that made the switch due to flipping their canoe.  Note the double sponson running the length of the hull on my Hobie Compass.  You'd fall out before you turtle it.  In testing it took some really intentional stupidity to get it to roll.

 

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On 12/9/2018 at 12:26 AM, Further North said:

I've thought for a long time that boats, bass fishing boats in particular, would be a perfect test bed for a lot of the technology.

They're already using light weight, lithium batteries.  It's only a matter of time.  Torqeedo has a 150 equivilent in the works.  I'd be interested to know run times, charge times, and weight.  I'm sure it will be way too expensive to be really practical.

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1 minute ago, J Francho said:

You'll flip a canoe MUCH easier than you'll flip a kayak designed for standing and fishing.  I on fact know many that made the switch due to flipping their canoe.  Note the double sponson running the length of the hull on my Hobie Compass.  You'd fall out before you turtle it.  In testing it took some really intentional stupidity to get it to roll.

It's one of those 'gut things' to me. I 'know' they're more stable, but seeing the shallowness of them still triggers something in me.

One thing I'm adding to my canoe this winter while the water is hard is outrigger stabilizers. Then I couldn't flip it if I tried.

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I was really hoping this was going to be an announcement for a new Tesla Outboard.

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5 hours ago, Chance_Taker4 said:

I was really hoping this was going to be an announcement for a new Tesla Outboard.

Funny thing, that market woulda made a lot more sense for them (him) to get into.

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On 12/6/2018 at 2:27 PM, J Francho said:

A gas powered Merc 75 weighs 150 lbs. MORE, and offers less power.  Your weight arguments are a little silly.

Those torqueedos are pretty cool.  But I still don’t see the real value.  I looked into a 3hp equivalent awhile back but it’s not worth it.  

 

the 3hp and the 80hp only have alittle over 1/2 hr runtime at full throttle,  and the 80hp you speak of  says the lithium battery weighs 564lbs. Only to run wide open for 35 minutes.  Where are you considering it’s better than the merc 75?

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9 hours ago, Arcs&sparks said:

Where are you considering it’s better than the merc 75?

I didn't.  My point was made above, though the weight of the batteries is equivalent to 91 gallons of gas, so point taken. ;)

 

Side note on run times... my Merc Racing ProMax will go through around 30 gallons of gas in one hour at WOT.  The tank is 25 gallons.

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I have a "Bass Baby" with built in wheels . Its like those Pelican boats . I load and unload it by myself then wheel it down to the water .  There are several lakes around that are elec only . The one I fish the most they loan out 14 foot jon boats and I have a lot of success there . I t takes about 15 minutes to hook up trolling motor , depth finder and strap in a seat . I take a seat from the Bass baby  and tie it down with those  racket straps .

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I just saw these in Fishing University and I like the concept with a few small changes. I really like the fishing chair as I don't get around as I used to in my younger years. What do others think about this new fishing rig from Blue Sky Boatworks? It is called the 360 Angler see pic below. It has both foot pedal and electric drive options.

 

 

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1 hour ago, PaparoclCal said:

I just saw these in Fishing University and I like the concept with a few small changes. I really like the fishing chair as I don't get around as I used to in my younger years. What do others think about this new fishing rig from Blue Sky Boatworks? It is called the 360 Angler see pic below. It has both foot pedal and electric drive options.

 

 

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Welcome aboard!

 

Personally, I'd opt for an electric motor over pedal... :) 

 

Saw Blue Sky's stuff via videos during Icast last year. Some really

neat stuff, to be true.

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Greetings Yak Fishin', I used to have a Cobra Fish-N-Dive kayak back when my wife and I had our canoe & kayak resort in north Arkansas. I loved that yak but I sold it to a friend as I have sever arthritis now in my lower back. It just won't take what it used to as I get older. I used to talk with my wife about what I would build if I had the money and its pretty close to what Blue Sky came out with the exception I had the idea of putting one of the high end Minn Kota trolling motors on the front linked to an I-pilot Link Hummingbird with the GPS and Mega Imaging as I will be fishing lake Castaic's clear water and the Castaic Lagoon. Such a set-up would allow me hands free operation and to view the deep structure where the Big Bass and Stripers hide. I could run the chart plotting linked to the I-pilot and anchor function to hold me over deep structure; my Dream Rig! Since I have been in California it is the first time I have not owned my own boat and the doctors have taken almost all of our lifesavings just to stay alive. I really miss fishing as once upon a time I fished saltwater in the Gulf of Mexico several days a week and the South Fork of the Spring River for Smallmouth Bass after I retired and had the mom&pop resort on the river. I'm drying out and shriveling away it has been so long since I wetted a line.?

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I hope it's not too late to add to this topic.

 

This is what I've been looking at. An inflatable boat.

 

https://scoutinflatables.com/products/scout-boats

 

And an electric outboard motor, albeit of modest size.

 

https://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/travel/travel-1103-c/M-1151-00.html

 

Not cheap, but doable. What's stopping me? I live in Florida and I'm afraid an alligator will bite my boat. Okay, not really ... much, but I am concerned about durability. I like that I wouldn't have a trailer and wouldn't necessarily need a full sized pickup.

 

Thoughts?

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