Lefty76 Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 I am looking for a soft body swimbait that works for a very slow retrieve on the bottom. Any recommendations? Regards, Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 1, 2018 Super User Posted December 1, 2018 Rage Swimmer http://www.strikeking.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=733&Itemid=1259 1 Quote
Dirtyeggroll Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 How big of a swimbait are you looking for? Then first thing that comes to my mind is a Huddleston, which is often fished more like a jig than a moving bait. 1 Quote
JustinJ Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Huddleston and keitech easy shiner or keitech swing impact 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 1, 2018 Super User Posted December 1, 2018 For smaller paddle tailes I think the Keitech FI’s have the best and most subtle action when worked slow and mostly weightless. The SK version is more durable but I think it takes more speed to get it moving. Quote
Big Rick Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Scottsboro Tackle Co. Swimbaits. They come in lengths from 3" to 8" and have excellent movement at a crawl. That's where they shine. Comes with a shallow hook pocket as well to assist rigging and hookups. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 2, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 2, 2018 Huddleston is pretty much the standard for a big swimbait that is soft and can be fished slowly. Keitech for a smaller bait, although now you can get them in larger sizes as well. 3 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 2, 2018 Super User Posted December 2, 2018 1. Huddleston Delux 68 ROF 12 2. Little Crippers All American Trash Fish 3. 3:16 Mission Fish for weedless presentation. Tom 3 Quote
Lefty76 Posted December 6, 2018 Author Posted December 6, 2018 Gentlemen, I really appreciate the responses. Regarding the Huddleston's, if you are fishing in 8-12ft water depth, which ROF would you use? Thanks Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 6, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Lefty76 said: Gentlemen, I really appreciate the responses. Regarding the Huddleston's, if you are fishing in 8-12ft water depth, which ROF would you use? Thanks 12, especially if you want to keep it on the bottom. Quote
GrumpyOlPhartte Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 @Lefty76: I fish a lot of small, weedy, natural lakes here in western MA, and weedless rigs are my big concern. Having said that, if you are looking for smaller swimbaits, you might want to consider Reaction Innovations Little Dipper. I have had great success (for me) using the Sungill color, either creeping then along the bottom (weighted hook) or slow rolling them and letting them settle to the bottom. Just a thought. No shad here but lots of bluegill and golden shiners. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 6, 2018 Super User Posted December 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: 12, especially if you want to keep it on the bottom. I kinda like the ROF5 for 8-10', it forces me to reel it super super slow to keep it on the bottom and I need any help I can get in that department. 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted December 6, 2018 Super User Posted December 6, 2018 Depends what you mean by slow and what you mean by swimbait. If you mean just barely creeping bottom in water that's about to freeze with larger baits (I'm talking like 4-5 seconds for a single handle rotation on your reel slow here), then in that case the only ones I've tried that will still have tail action just nosing the bottom at that speed are the Hudds, Real Preys, and Little Creeper Trash Fish. Otherwise keitechs are always a good choice but they have a bit more exaggerated tail action (which is a good thing sometimes) at faster retrieve speeds. 7 hours ago, fishwizzard said: I kinda like the ROF5 for 8-10', it forces me to reel it super super slow to keep it on the bottom and I need any help I can get in that department. I'd second this too. You can always discretely add nail weights to a ROF5 to really dial in your preferred sink rate. You can remove some of the lead from the harness of a ROF12 too but that's a bit involved and is obviously a permanent change to the lure whereas with nail weights you can swap them out on the fly. Quote
Lefty76 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 Ok so I went to Field & Stream and got these: The largest hooks they had in stock were 7/0 Berkley Fusion & Eagle Claw TroKars. I hope they will work on these size of baits. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 7, 2018 Super User Posted December 7, 2018 So you basically went with your original choice. What tackle do you plan to use? What makes a good slow moving swimbait vs a not so good swimbait in your opinion? Tail movement alone doesn't trigger big bass into striking a swimbait. Tom 1 Quote
Lefty76 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 Tom, Field & Stream just happens to be next to Golf Galaxy (My #1 hobby) I actually went there looking for some rods for my refurbished Green 5:1 Curado reels (circa 1998-99). Ended up purchasing two Dobyns Fury 7' 3" flipping rods. (These will be used for big worms and other lures they can handle.) On one reel may try out 30lb braid and a Flouro leader. On another reel I may try 15lb mono. Line on the 3rd Curado is TBD. Two Daiwa DX Swimbait rods are in route from Tackle Warehouse and should arrive tomorrow. Plan is to use my reconditioned 5500C3 reels that have been updated with levelwind bearings as well as all new bearings. Plan to use 20lb pound mono on these reels. I did not expect to see Keitechs there as I have never seen them in Bass Pro Shops or Academy Outdoors. I never seen any swimbaits at those stores except the Bass Pro Shops brand and have ignored those. I saw them and grabbed them as there were few on the shelf. Quote
Kyhokie Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 @Lefty76 those hooks definitely will not be big enough for that 7.8. Quote
Lefty76 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 I way afraid of that but they will find use in the future. Quote
Mr. Aquarium Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 21 hours ago, MassYak85 said: Depends what you mean by slow and what you mean by swimbait. If you mean just barely creeping bottom in water that's about to freeze with larger baits (I'm talking like 4-5 seconds for a single handle rotation on your reel slow here), then in that case the only ones I've tried that will still have tail action just nosing the bottom at that speed are the Hudds, Real Preys, and Little Creeper Trash Fish. Otherwise keitechs are always a good choice but they have a bit more exaggerated tail action (which is a good thing sometimes) at faster retrieve speeds. I'd second this too. You can always discretely add nail weights to a ROF5 to really dial in your preferred sink rate. You can remove some of the lead from the harness of a ROF12 too but that's a bit involved and is obviously a permanent change to the lure whereas with nail weights you can swap them out on the fly. I just got an ROF 0 hudd, im kind of really tempted to toss it in cold shallow ponds. dead stick it. It barely sits under the surface, the nose and tail are under water. you could put a nail weight and make it an ROF 1, 2 or 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 8, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 8, 2018 I've got some big hand poured paddle tail swimbaits, the soft materail has good action at slow speed Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted December 8, 2018 Super User Posted December 8, 2018 19 hours ago, Mr. Aquarium said: I just got an ROF 0 hudd, im kind of really tempted to toss it in cold shallow ponds. dead stick it. It barely sits under the surface, the nose and tail are under water. you could put a nail weight and make it an ROF 1, 2 or 3 The ROF 0's don't come with hooks right? Gotta BBR or STE rig them or something? I've thought about doing the same. There's a lot of ponds I fish that are shallow and I can't go as slow as I'd like without sinking into the dying weed beds and getting fouled up. A ROF 1 or 2 would be great. I've tried shaving off some of the lead of a ROF 5 68 weedless but it still wasn't quite what I was hoping for. Quote
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