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8 hours ago, Catt said:

Sensitivity strarts in the hands & continues up to the brain.

 

I've fished everything from Fenwick's first graphite to the top of the line G. Loomis. I currently fish Shimano Crucial which I find every bit as sensitive as any.

 

Let me explain it this way!

 

I could put any high end reel on any high end rod, spool it with braid for maximum sensitivity, tie on a Texas rig & then give it to my wife.

She could not "feel" any difference if I had rigged it up on a Berkley Lightening rod!

 

Why?

 

Cause what is transmitted up the line, down the rod, through the hands will be lost in the brain.

She doesn't fish & would not be able to interpret what she is feeling.

 

Even for the average angler a certain amount of "sensitivity" is lost in the brain!

Not every driver is qualified to drive in F1 or ride a GP bike.  The machines are still the best even if the driver is not capable.  Is that the machines fault, i think not.  Do people expect the product to make them better even if their skills are not up to the task, absolutely.  Then you have those that believe and buy into the hype, not helping anything.  Finally there are those people who think there F1 car is better than your F1 car, and will argue themselves until blue in the face.   

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Posted
9 hours ago, Catt said:

Cause what is transmitted up the line, down the rod, through the hands will be lost in the brain.

She doesn't fish & would not be able to interpret what she is feeling.

 

I think you have it all wrong.  With an old Ugli Stick with mono she would feel nothing.  With a modern hi mod graphite with braid she definitely will feel most bites.

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So every Pro angler should be sponsored by G. Loomis, if they are not they are using inferior rods!

 

According to Greg Hackney he uses the exact same Quantum rods you can order from Bass Pro Shop!

 

But what does Hack 

Attack know about jig fishing?

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, MickD said:

I think you have it all wrong.  With an old Ugli Stick with mono she would feel nothing.  With a modern hi mod graphite with braid she definitely will feel most bites.

This^

 

My buddy is a casual fisherman. I took him to a trout river one day and I told him to grab my spare rod to use, I said it would cast the small jigs better than his old 6’ medium ugly stick, but he declined.  Standing side by side I caught 10 fish to his 0. He struggled and I could see he was confused and attempting to set the hook here and there. I told him he must not be feeling the bites and insisted he go grab my spare rod. First cast he caught a trout,  and after that he kept up with the numbers pretty well and was blown away that he could now tell the difference between the heavy current, bumping rocks, and a fish biting.  Same exact thing happened with my ex GF with a cheap Okuma combo at the same spot 1 year earlier.  The difference between bottom shelf and something decent are drastic. The difference between decent and high end are not so drastic.

 

@Catt well geez I would hope a professional would be able to use mid grade gear. ?  I think you had it wrong that even a beginner can’t  be helped by using something decent.  

It’ll take an expert to properly cast a $20 fly rod. Same goes for trying to play a $50 acoustic guitar and make it sound good.  

 

 

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On 11/29/2018 at 8:20 AM, PABassFish007 said:

Ive heard lots on Dobyns as well? Anyone have an opinion here

I’m a fan of Dobyns, and they are high quality well-balanced rods... but in terms of sensitivity, they are just average (not terrible, but not great).  I also have Helium 3, ALX and Tatulas and all are more sensitive than Dobyns.  

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1 hour ago, Arcs&sparks said:

 I think you had it wrong that even a beginner can’t  be helped by using something decent.  

 

Please show me where I said that ?

 

Please define "decent"?

 

There's more Pro Anglers using rods in the $200-250 range than rods above that range.

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On 11/29/2018 at 9:20 AM, PABassFish007 said:

Ive heard lots on Dobyns as well? Anyone have an opinion here

I have a Dobyns Fury, a St Croix Mojo Bass, and a Powell Inferno. These are all rods under $140 and on sale less than a $100. It's difficult to say which one is the best it just depends on what you like. I am leaning towards the Dobyns and St. Croix slightly over the Powell but that's just personal preference. I like the shorter handle of the St Croix Mojo Bass for fishing from my kayak and the longer handle on the Dobyns fury for fishing from my boat. I have fished with the St. Croix Avid and didn't notice a significant difference in sensitivity over the St. Croix Mojo Bass. They use the same blank but the Avid has upgraded guides. IMHO the sensitivity between the Fury and Mojo Bass are equivalent. I can't speak to durability because none of these three rods have failed or broken. The Dobyns Fury has Eva on the lower part of the split handle and cork on the top section. St Croix Mojo Bass and Powell Inferno have cork on their split grips top and bottom. On another note I find the rod is far more important than the reel. If you maintain your reels you can make almost any reel last plus it is cheap to upgrade bearings and drag washers  if wanted. I have some 15 year old Bass pro extreme reels that work fine because I maintain them and replace broken parts for almost nothing. I also have some newer KastKing reels that cast much further and appeared to be just as easy to maintain although I don't know about the availability of parts. In addition I have some Shimano and Daiwa reels that are nice and smooth but they don't help me catch any more fish than the other reels. I am a recreational fishermen who is now retired and fishes 4 to 5 days a week but if I were going to fish tournaments for a living I would definitely consider higher-end gear. I have fished with excellent fishermen that use $400 rods and $40 rods. I personally have caught many fish on a $40 ugly Stik rod and reel setup. A good sensitive rod helps but more importantly learning how to find fish, determing what they want, and developing technique are the most important qualities for success.

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There are really so many good rods out there now, take your pick. Many will work good. It's down to what feels best in your hands, and as others have said, it's not all brand name or cost.Ive known guys who used rods that some would scoff at, and caught lots of fish. Use what works for you. One thing I know- there's more to becoming a good jig fisherman than the rod you use.

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6 hours ago, bayvalle said:

 I have fished with the St. Croix Avid and didn't notice a significant difference in sensitivity over the St. Croix Mojo Bass. 

I used to have three of the Mojo Bass and thought they were great................until I tried the Avid.  I think the sensitivity of the Avid is noticeably better than the Mojo. 

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13 hours ago, Catt said:

 

 

 

There's more Pro Anglers using rods in the $200-250 range than rods above that range.

And? Nobody asked what they used. Nobody said you have to use it. The question was a blank comparison. I'm sure there's a cool story bro thread somewhere on here you can gloat about how great you are without using the latest and greatest. 

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1 hour ago, iabass8 said:

And? Nobody asked what they used. Nobody said you have to use it. The question was a blank comparison. I'm sure there's a cool story bro thread somewhere on here you can gloat about how great you are without using the latest and greatest. 

 

35 double digits with a 12 lb 8 oz ?

 

How many you got on your high dollar rods?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

35 double digits with a 12 lb 8 oz ?

 

How many you got on your high dollar rods?

What does that have to do with anything? And what rods do I use?

Posted
59 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

35 double digits with a 12 lb 8 oz ?

 

How many you got on your high dollar 

my vote for dumbest comment of the year.

no one cares how many double digits you've caught dude.

no one cares what you caught them on either.

 

 

 

Posted

Lol title change; “Most Sensitive Jig Fishermen”

 

16 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Please show me where I said that ?

 

Please define "decent"?

 

There's more Pro Anglers using rods in the $200-250 range than rods above that range.

(I’m having trouble doing multiple quotes)

 

It was clearly in response to the wife analogy.  If I’m misunderstanding the point then I apologize.  Seemed you were saying that a beginner won’t be able to tell the difference between a bottom shelf rod and a high end rod. That’s where I disagreed.  And by “decent” (open to interpretation I know ?) I meant simply not bottom shelf.  The rods I mentioned in my example were just Fish Eagle 50’s vs Bottom shelf.  The beginners where shocked at the difference.  

 

I don’t think the last part was aimed at me,  I wasn’t disagreeing with anything else said. ?

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3 hours ago, iabass8 said:

. I'm sure there's a cool story bro thread somewhere on here you can gloat about how great you are without using the latest and greatest

 

2 hours ago, iabass8 said:

What does that have to do with anything? And what rods do I use?

 

Answer the question ?

 

1 hour ago, Arcs&sparks said:

Lol title change; “Most Sensitive Jig Fishermen”

 

(I’m having trouble doing multiple quotes)

 

It was clearly in response to the wife analogy.  If I’m misunderstanding the point then I apologize.  Seemed you were saying that a beginner won’t be able to tell the difference between a bottom shelf rod and a high end rod. That’s where I disagreed.  And by “decent” (open to interpretation I know ?) I meant simply not bottom shelf.  The rods I mentioned in my example were just Fish Eagle 50’s vs Bottom shelf.  The beginners where shocked at the difference.  

 

I don’t think the last part was aimed at me,  I wasn’t disagreeing with anything else said. ?

 

The point is no matter what rod my wife used she couldn't feel any difference. Not that the "sensitivity" aint there the interpretation aint there.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

 

Answer the question ?

 

 

The point is no matter what rod my wife used she couldn't feel any difference. Not that the "sensitivity" aint there the interpretation aint there.

Answer what question? You didnt ask one. You just gave a number of double digit fish you’ve caught as if thats a measure of somebodys fishing skill? If you’re asking how many double digit fish I’ve caught, the answer is dozens. If you’re asking how many double digit bass I’ve caught, the answer is zero. I live in NE Iowa, double digit bass don’t exist here...so again, what does that have to do with anything aside from pointing out you live in the South and I live in the North?

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Posted
3 hours ago, iabass8 said:

I'm sure there's a cool story bro thread somewhere on here you can gloat about how great you are without using the latest and greatest

 

Tells me all I needed to know ?

 

@PABassFish007 sorry for taking your thread the wrong direction.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Choporoz said:

I do

I do too. He has forgotten more about jig fishing than many of us know! He's right. It's a fact. 

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2 hours ago, byram bassturd said:

my vote for dumbest comment of the year.

no one cares how many double digits you've caught dude.

no one cares what you caught them on either.

 

 

 

Count me as a no one, I guess. I always want to know... I love big fish stories. 

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