St.Croix and I’m Confused ?‍♂️

[MUSLENUTZ]

I purchased a Casting MHF 7.1 Mojo Bass. I paired it up with a Curado Dc. I loved the set up, but on the first day of using it... it broke. I think I was high sticking or maybe it cane damaged. 

 

I decided after my refund refund, I would order an Avid X MHF 7ft. And here is my delimma. 

 

I feel no matter what lure or line I use, I just can’t get the same cast distance with it. Here is my delimma in which I ask you experienced fisherman for some advice. 

 

1. The Avid X feels more like a Medium, not a MH. The Mojo felt like it had more beef. 

 

2.  Cast distance, I would say I could easily cast 15%-20% further with the Mojo Bass than the Avid X. 

 

3. Yes the Avid X is much lighter and definitely better made. I feel that the micro guides almost slow down the line instead of it being faster and smoother.

 

I kind of want to go back to my Mojo Bass, I just feel it was better for the action. I’m just afraid of it being less superior in build quality.  Maybe going up to a 7.4 would be better for the Avid X, but trailing on the shore and walking around the woods would be a challenge. 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

[r83srock]

This is interesting. I have owned two 7’1” Mhf mojos, one I sold, the other I broke this year, on a hook set. It’s the third rod I’ve ever broke, and the only St. Croix I’ve broke in 15 years of fishing that brand. I loved the rods, very balanced and one of the lightest 7’ers in mh power, in the Croix line up. What I noticed however, was opposite of your observation. I thought the rods had considerably less power than my premiers, avids, legends. That took some getting used to, but I learned to really like them, especially with braid. They are just as sensitive in my hands as and avid or legend tournament, and the build quality overall seems no different than any other St. Croix. I do not think the Mojo and Avid share the same blank either, however, I do believe all St. Croix blanks are made in Park Falls. If you don’t like the avid as much as the mojo, I don’t think you are going backwards at all, both are very nice.

[Scott F]

Avids and Mojo bass rods both use the same SC III blanks. 

[Hulkster]

they both use SCIII graphite but I was under the impression that they were not the same blanks. just use the same materials but the tapers are different etc.

[Junger]

1 hour ago, Hulkster said:

they both use SCIII graphite but I was under the impression that they were not the same blanks. just use the same materials but the tapers are different etc.

Same dilemna as Daiwa Tatula Rods and Zillion Rods...same blank or same material/tech....who knows!

[burrows]

Fish it hard you’ll get used to it.

[webertime]

Mojo is a Mexican blank with different scrim and resin than the Avid.  The graphite is the only commonality between the 2.

 

My experience with mojo/rage vs avid has given me the impression that the mojo is slightly slower in action and that might load the bait better for you and the mechanics of your cast.

[Boomstick]

I have a 6'9" ML/XF Avid X spinning rod and I got my youngest son a Mojo Bass spinnerbait rod ('7 MH/MF). Honestly, the longer casting rod is barely any heavier than the shorter, thinner spinning rod -- both are super light! No issues with breaking either yet, so I'm surprised to hear you broke yours, although we have been careful picking up larger fish because they are such light rods.

 

The St. Croix Mojo Bass and Daiwa Tatula rods have been my gotos as they're a solid price point and good quality. I got the Avid X for my finesse rod because I figure when it comes to bottom contact, every little edge in sensitivity might help me catch more fish, but I'd be hesitant to buy an Avid X casting due to the microguides unless I knew I would never use braid to leader with the said rod.

[TBAG]

I've fished St. Croix rods for a long time and never really read or heard of people breaking them until just recently.....

 

Weird.....

[MUSLENUTZ]

19 hours ago, Scott F said:

Avids and Mojo bass rods both use the same SC III blanks. 

 

 

Maybe I need to reconsider rods... I have been using an ugly stick forever and you can tie that thing in a knot.

[r83srock]

3 hours ago, TBAG said:

I've fished St. Croix rods for a long time and never really read or heard of people breaking them until just recently.....

 

Weird.....

It is weird. I have a lot of confidence in their stuff, I lean more toward that brand when I want to buy new. I’ve almost always purchased their rods due to durability alone, above all else. I know some people who had issues with the rage line, I wonder how similar this newer mojo is to the older rage?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Any increase in breakage stories can be attributed to internet usage. More stories doesn't necessarily equate to more breaks. In addition to that you have televised tournaments and YouTube showing explicitly how NOT to handle a rod (or a fish for that matter). 

[Angry John]

1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Any increase in breakage stories can be attributed to internet usage. More stories doesn't necessarily equate to more breaks. In addition to that you have televised tournaments and YouTube showing explicitly how NOT to handle a rod (or a fish for that matter). 

This is so true.  My favorite guy Matt Allen catches a ton of fish but does not always handle a rod kindly.  People now expect to be protected by warranty for their mistakes.

[Spankey]

I fish St. Croix almost exclusively. Premiers, Mojos and Avids. I've had a couple of them break. Don't think it was me. And they covered them. A few rods over many years I can't kick. My SC trout rods take a beating under normal use. Surprised they have held up that well over the years. I don't own anything better than Avid Series. 

[MUSLENUTZ]

Why not choose this?

 

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/shakespeare-ugly-stik-elite-casting-rod?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&affcode_c=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrK3Elqil3gIVD4vICh1ykAycEAQYASABEgJwnPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Matt_3479]

Hmm I find this interesting. Totally different models but I purchased an avid x 7’ medium fast spinning and my buddy purchased a mojo 7’1 medium fast and they are two totally different rods. The mojo fishes definately more like a medium light, it has more parabolic bend and took my way longer to get use too. 

 

I also fish a 7’ medium heavy fast casting in the avid x but never fished a similar mojo. But from my multiple other brands of rods this rod I feel is one of the best multi purpose rods I’ve fished. It feels like a medium- to a medium heavy as far as weight goes, but it definately fishes like a medium heavy to even on the lighter side of a heavy. It has tons of back bone, and I can sling a bait wicked far with the stick! 

[MickD]

On 10/24/2018 at 4:39 PM, MUSLENUTZ said:

 

 

Maybe I need to reconsider rods... I have been using an ugly stick forever and you can tie that thing in a knot.

If you have never used a modern graphite rod and have only used the old black Ugly Sticks, DON'T try a modern graphite rod.  You'll have to buy a whole bunch of new rods; you will not be able to go back.  I'm serious.