Fyang012 Posted October 5, 2018 Posted October 5, 2018 What’s out there with fast speed ratio baitcaster, and a really good sensitive heavy rod? Quote
Smelter96 Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 I use a daiwa Zillion 7'4" frog rod for all the above. Ontop is the older TD Zillion in the 7 gear. 65lb braid, sufix or sunline fx2. My fluoro rod is a 7'6" Daiwa Tatula (the older black and gold model) with a Quantum Smoke "speed freak" with 20lb Sunline or berkley 100% in 17lb. 2 Quote
Matt_3479 Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 My heavier jig rod is a glx 894c which is a 7’5” heavy fast action rod and my frog rod is an imx pro 884c twfr which is a 7’4” heavy fast action rod. Both currently have 7.1:1 chronarch mgl’s on them Quote
Super User Catt Posted October 6, 2018 Super User Posted October 6, 2018 Lew’s Speed Spool LFS SS1HA 6.8:1 Quantum Vapor 7' 10" Heavy Extra Fast TUF-Line XP Braided Line 65# Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted October 6, 2018 Super User Posted October 6, 2018 Honestly I think you are talking about two different rods. The best frog rods are a little lite to really handle the heavy punch rigs well. For a great frog rod take a look at the Irod Genesis II Fred's Magic stick. It is an IRG754. For true punching power Bub's Punching rod is awesome. That is an IRG7114P. 1 Quote
Logan S Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 I split those out into different rods...BUT, you could do all of that with the Zillion 7'4" H Frog rod mentioned once already above (or even the Tatula version). It's a great rod - I use it for frogs, but it could be used for punching, flipping, pitching, swimbaits, a-rigs, etc....It's a little on the short side for my tastes with some of those, but it will still do the job well. 1 Quote
Fyang012 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Posted October 8, 2018 Do you guys setup braid + Fluro for your flip/pitch/heavy crank etc and braid + mono for frog? Quote
Smelter96 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Fyang012 said: Do you guys setup braid + Fluro for your flip/pitch/heavy crank etc and braid + mono for frog? If I'm understanding your question correctly, for heavy cover, straight braid. For lighter, open cover and timber, straight fluoro. Frog is always straight braid. 50lb-65lb for the braid. 20lb for fluoro. I only use mono for topwater. This is how I do it, others will vary, of course. 1 Quote
Matt_3479 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Fyang012 said: Do you guys setup braid + Fluro for your flip/pitch/heavy crank etc and braid + mono for frog? My flip and pitch rod is 50lbs straight braid. In clear lakes I sometimes tie on a leader. My frog rod is 50lbs straight braid and never had a problem but lots of people use 65lbs straight braid. Crank I use Fluro Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted October 9, 2018 Super User Posted October 9, 2018 I have 3 combos I use for heavy cover fishing: All have Daiwa Fuego CT's in 8.1:1 ratio, spooled with 50lb Original Power Pro Braid 7'3" H/F Custom built rod on an MHX MBR blank, this is my flipping/punching/big jig and t-rig rod. 7'3" Dobyns Fury 735C, this is my "all purpose" H power rod and is used for frogging, flipping, pitching, and more. 7' Daiwa H/F Aird X, nice and light for a "budget rod" It's my go to frog rod, and it's surprisingly sensitive for it's price point and I use it often for pitching. Quote
Mr Swim Jig Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 I have a Daiwa Tatula 7' 4" H/F rod for frogging with a Tatula Type-R reel in 8.1:1 and for flipping and pitching I use a Daiwa Tatula 7' 6" H/F rod with a Tatula Type-R reel in 8.1:1... I use straight braid for my frog rod and straight braid with a fluorocarbon leader if needed for flipping and pitching... Quote
Ksam1234 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Irod genesis 2 Fred’s magic stick is specifically made for just everything you stated. I use it mainly for frogs and it’s amazing ! It’s super lightweight yet strong to pull anything out of cover. Caught my PB of 7 pounds with it pulling along about 10 pounds of weeds. I use a quantum smoke S3 reel with 8:1:1 ratio to pick up slack fast. Quote
Fyang012 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Posted October 10, 2018 Any of you guys use Kingkast 9.3:1 reel? Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 10, 2018 Super User Posted October 10, 2018 I rod IRG754F about 6 years now, with Ardent 1100 reel and 60 lb Fins, it's my only heavy cover outfit, no leaders. I don't do a lot of punching or flipping mostly heavy cover frogs and pitching where fish. Tom Quote
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