Big hook?

[Topwaterdude]

Any disadvantage to using big hook on smaller soft plastic?

[A-Jay]

Depending on the bait & or the presentation / technique, supersizing hooks in plastic can have a tendency to alter some of the baits 'action'. 

However, as long as one is still getting bit and is utilizing gear that can drive it home, may not matter. 

A-Jay

[Gundog]

Yup. You don't get the action from soft plastics like swimbaits and soft jerkbaits.

[Angry John]

Stick baits I use a 2/0 ewg because it's the smallest hook I can reliably hook up with.  When punching I use the biggest hook that will fit the plastic.  Dropshot I tried small hooks and I loose them more so I play with the size based on what will land the fish.  Never a simple answer in fishing.

[Munkin]

The hook size I use depends on the bait I am using. Example being there is no reason to use a 5/0 EWG hook with a 4" senko as it will kill the action. Honestly I use a lot of 2/0 hooks and have caught many 6lb+ fish on them for creature baits and senkos. Do not think you can only catch big fish or will gut hook them using smaller hooks.

 

Allen

[Topwaterdude]

I'm using a 5/0 Ewg on a Zoom uvibe speed worm,I figured bigger hook would increase hookup perecentage but I think it might be effecting the presentation.

[Spankey]

11 minutes ago, Topwaterdude said:

I'm using a 5/0 Ewg on a Zoom uvibe speed worm,I figured bigger hook would increase hookup perecentage but I think it might be effecting the presentation.

Can you give a recommendation on a 5/0 EWG Worm Hook that is NOT a heavy style flipping type. I'm going to be using them on 5"&6" GY Senkos. 

 

I do not fish real real heavy. I rig them weightless t style. Just don't like the heavier hooks I'm using. I think they are overkill. 

 

OP, Thanks for for letting me ask a question on your post. 

[A-Jay]

18 minutes ago, Spankey said:

Can you give a recommendation on a 5/0 EWG Worm Hook that is NOT a heavy style flipping type. I'm going to be using them on 5"&6" GY Senkos. 

 

I do not fish real real heavy. I rig them weightless t style. Just don't like the heavier hooks I'm using. I think they are overkill. 

 

OP, Thanks for for letting me ask a question on your post. 

Try the Gamakatsu Offset EWG Worm Hooks Black.

Think you'll like it.

A-Jay

[TOXIC]

19 minutes ago, Spankey said:

Can you give a recommendation on a 5/0 EWG Worm Hook that is NOT a heavy style flipping type. I'm going to be using them on 5"&6" GY Senkos. 

 

I do not fish real real heavy. I rig them weightless t style. Just don't like the heavier hooks I'm using. I think they are overkill. 

 

OP, Thanks for for letting me ask a question on your post. 

On a 5" senko I use 3, 4 or 5.0 Gamakatsu EWG.  Not the Superline series which are the thicker flipping hooks.  I use the different hook sizes to get a faster/slower fall rate and to compensate for wind or tide.  I have no problem rigging with these hooks and none affect the action of the bait.  I would say that with a 6" senko I would not use anything below a 4.0.  

[Spankey]

33 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Try the Gamakatsu Offset EWG Worm Hooks Black.

Think you'll like it.

A-Jay

Thank you. 

[Pro Logcatcher]

smaller the better, as long as you're hooking up

[Spankey]

24 minutes ago, TOXIC said:

On a 5" senko I use 3, 4 or 5.0 Gamakatsu EWG.  Not the Superline series which are the thicker flipping hooks.  I use the different hook sizes to get a faster/slower fall rate and to compensate for wind or tide.  I have no problem rigging with these hooks and none affect the action of the bait.  I would say that with a 6" senko I would not use anything below a 4.0.  

Thank you. I'd like to get something a bit different to have in my possession for Sunday morning. Gonna break away from the 3" & 4" Senkos I've been using. Step it up a bit. Probably won't find 5/0 EGW locally but feel good about getting them to the house by Sunday delivered. 

 

I'm not hurting for fishing tackle or rods and reel by any means but this winter I'm gonna hook myself up with a decent flipping and pitching set up to handle heavier rigs properly. 

 

I feel good about a finesse approach to 5" & 6" Senkos but need the right hook. 

 

OP THANKS AGAIN. 

[Catt]

Today's hook technology they're all good, Trokar, Owner, VMC, Gamakatsu, Mustad.

 

[NHBull]

I have had far better  results with standard offset worm hooks.  EWG is reserved for larger diameter baits. Superline hooks will also trash your worms faster, but if you need to use it, wet it prior to insertion.

[A-Jay]

1 hour ago, NHBull said:

I have had far better  results with standard offset worm hooks.  EWG is reserved for larger diameter baits. Superline hooks will also trash your worms faster, but if you need to use it, wet it prior to insertion.

Sage Advice ~

A-Jay

[Spankey]

This one shop near me looks to be pushing those Berkley Fusion hooks. He had a pretty good selection but they are not what I feel I need at this time. Have that heavy flipping/punching thing going on. Great hook I'm sure but that type of fishing I'm not there yet. 

 

For quite a few weeks now  I've been dealing with a dink  and runt lollapoliza. Feel the need to step up that senko size and see if I can draw bigger hits. 

[Topwaterdude]

I really like the  size of the 5/0 seems I don't miss as many 

[Spankey]

8 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Try the Gamakatsu Offset EWG Worm Hooks Black.

Think you'll like it.

A-Jay

 

7 hours ago, Spankey said:

Thank you. I'd like to get something a bit different to have in my possession for Sunday morning. Gonna break away from the 3" & 4" Senkos I've been using. Step it up a bit. Probably won't find 5/0 EGW locally but feel good about getting them to the house by Sunday delivered. 

 

I'm not hurting for fishing tackle or rods and reel by any means but this winter I'm gonna hook myself up with a decent flipping and pitching set up to handle heavier rigs properly. 

 

I feel good about a finesse approach to 5" & 6" Senkos but need the right hook. 

 

OP THANKS AGAIN. 

Guys thanks again, I ordered up the Gammys in 4/0 & 5/0. I also have the Owner Wide Gap Plus coming in 4/0 & 5/0 also. Will have them before Sunday.

 

At BPS today there is 10% off if you spend over $50.00 and 2 day shipping. Been wanting that 100 MPH jacket liner for some time. Seemed like the price was right and the deal was real. Thanks again. 

 

My winter project will be to set myself with a heavier punching/flipping/slop set up for this heavy vegetation I encounter. I have to go with the lighter wt. hooks right now. I know I'm taking myself out of the game by not fishing the heavy stuff properly. 

[WRB]

On September 25, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Topwaterdude said:

Any disadvantage to using big hook on smaller soft plastic?

Depends on your rod power/action and line strength.

Therecis more hook size then gap size; wire diameter, forged or round, ridgitiy sharpness, barb size, shank length and bend shape.

I use a size 1 Owner #5172 wacky hook on 5" Senkos, Gamakatsu forged medium wire  5/0 hook for my jigs with 3" plastics. Different rods, reel and line to assure good hook sets.

So discribe your tackle?

Tom

[Topwaterdude]

4 hours ago, WRB said:

Depends on your rod power/action and line strength.

Therecis more hook size then gap size; wire diameter, forged or round, ridgitiy sharpness, barb size, shank length and bend shape.

I use a size 1 Owner #5172 wacky hook on 5" Senkos, Gamakatsu forged medium wire  5/0 hook for my jigs with 3" plastics. Different rods, reel and line to assure good hook sets.

So discribe your tackle?

Tom

Rod Dobyns med/heavy,daiwai tatula CT,braid 50lb,using gama 5/0 Ewg super line hook, throwing Zoom uvibe speed worm.

[TOXIC]

Let me backup a second and explain why I like an offset EWG hook as opposed to a regular offset worm hook.  When Senko fishing the bite is usually an all or nothing strike as opposed to tail biting.  It is my opinion that the EWG hook protruding farther out from the bait does 2 things, 1. Allows you to detect bites faster since it will make contact with the fish sooner and 2. minimizes the number of fish gut hooked since the EWG will lodge quicker than a straight shank.  I see no increase of bites or fish from straight shanks which would be my main reason for switching.   

[WRB]

10 hours ago, Topwaterdude said:

Rod Dobyns med/heavy,daiwai tatula CT,braid 50lb,using gama 5/0 Ewg super line hook, throwing Zoom uvibe speed worm.

We all have our own ideas about hook styles. I am not a fan of EWG hooks for worms and would use a spring lock design like Owners Twistlock Light hook or down size the Gamakatsu Super line spring lock hook.

My reasoning is EWG hooks gap is too wide and oversize loop can cam over flat inside the basses mouth when the bass crunches down during the strike. All a worm hook gap needs for a is to be 2X the worm diameter.

Tom

[Catt]

Everyone has their own personal repertoire confusion when it comes to fishing.

 

EWG, Offset, & Straight shank hooks all work, one could argue slight advantages for each.

 

[GReb]

I prefer straight shank in heavy grass. EWG in most every other application. 3/0 Gamakatsu EWG is the most versitile IMO

[Topwaterdude]

I was using a 3/0 ewg but I was missing fish so I tried a 5/0 ewg made huge difference in hook up percentage for me I was just wondering if bigger hook on speed worm was taking some of the action away.