T-Wing question

[E-DOG]

I'm looking at possibly getting a Tatula CT and see that is has the TWS line guide. only one problem I might have with buying the reel is that I heard from a reviewer that leader knots won't pass through the line guide. have any of your had the same issue or does the reel function well with leader knots passing through the T-wing?

[Tim Kelly]

Probably depends on your leader knot. I use and FG and have no problems.

[CroakHunter]

Fg or Alberto in small diameters your fine. Could also save some money and get a fuego which fishes just as good as my tatulas but it doesn't have the t-wing

[JustJames]

Yes some knots would strucked on T-wings especially bigger diameter line like 12lb mono on 30-40 lb braid. It would cast just fine the problem is when reeling in. How long do you plan for your leader? If shorter than rod length you should have no problem wit any knot.

[LionHeart]

I have the original Tatula with the t-wing.  Not sure if the opening for the line guide is the same size as it is on the CT (the wing itself is narrower on the CT). I use 50 lb braid and a 20 lb leader with the FG knot, and every so often, the leader knot will snag on the way in.

 

It doesn't stop me from being able to reel in the line, but it is a noticeable 'tick.'  Doesn't really bother me now that I know what it is, and really has no impact on performance.

 

Absolutely wouldn't stop me from getting the reel.  As for the t-wing, I could take it or leave it.  The Tatula braking system is very nice though.

[Lead Head]

I'll throw in my customary fuego ct endorsement here. If your interested in the tatula ct and have any concerns over the t-wing, do a quick forum search on the fuego ct. It's basically the same reel only without t-wing and you can get it for around $50 on eBay. I personally didn't want a t-wing reel because it just looked like unnecessary moving parts that can wear or fail, so I went with fuegos. I have zero complaints.

[Hook2Jaw]

The Fuego is fire, the Tatula CT is fire.  The former can be had for 67 bucks on eBay, the latter for about 100.  I haven't checked Tatula CT prices lately.

 

The T-Wing system adds maybe ten feet to a typical real world cast.  I'm not sure if a leader knot will pass through the vertical opening of the T-Wing.  I don't use leaders that long, my own are only to the reel.  Typically a few inches away.

 

As everyone has said, I would give the Fuego CT a healthy amount of consideration  and spend the saved money on some tackle, line, or flowers for the lady in your life.

[LCG]

I have both tataula and Fuego as well. I have the same opinion as everyone else, t wing is fine but not a huge thing. It's the Daiwa breaking system that is special. 

 

Save the money and grab a Fuego. Solid smooth reel. 

[MickD]

I see no need for a leader so long that it enters the reel.  Seems like asking for trouble with interference to casting or retrieving and/or beating up the knot and weakening it.  

 

My SV 103  has the T-wing and casts better than any other reel I've used.  Not sure how much the T-wing contributes, but it's a great reel.

[Vincent_Diesel]

Uni to uni passes through my SV TW just fine. Braid to fluoro.

3 hours ago, Hook2Jaw said:

The T-Wing system adds maybe ten feet to a typical real world cast. 

This has not been my experience. Same parameters, my Tatula SV TW in comparison to a Shimano Curado K and the Curado threw further. Not sure if this is what you mean by a typical real world cast.

[Hook2Jaw]

44 minutes ago, Vincent_Diesel said:

This has not been my experience. Same parameters, my Tatula SV TW in comparison to a Shimano Curado K and the Curado threw further. Not sure if this is what you mean by a typical real world cast.

 

TheReelTest did a video on the YouTube that shows a 7-10' increase for a Daiwa Tatula CT Type-R versus a Daiwa Fuego CT.  That's the best test of a T-Wing against a level wind I can think of with actual video evidence.

 

TheReelTest even gave the Fuego one of the Tatula's bearings to fully even the odds.

 

Very marginal difference that will very rarely come into play, in my opinion.

 

EDIT :  The Tatula SV TW is more than likely a much better reel than the two tested reels, and those better parts will probably work in conjunction to allow the T-Wing to assist the cast much better than a Tatula SV TW in a fictional world where it has a regular level wind guide.

 

I still don't think there's much difference in casting ability with a Fuego, CT, or Type-R, however.

 

2ND EDIT : You're touting the Curado as a better casting reel than a Tatula.  That's fine with me and I'm not going to argue with that.  We're in here talking Daiwa versus Daiwa, though!  ?

[fishnkamp]

Look, most guys that complain about the T wing do not fish them and may never cast one. I use total of 1 Exceler ( Fuego predecessor) 5 Tatula Type Rs and 2 Tatula CTs. I never have a knot hang in my T wing because I use a 6 foot leader max. That eliminates that possibility completely. I can not see a need to go longer than your rod length. I fish 65 pound Power Pro on my frog rod, so I tie direct on that one.  All my others all have either braid and a 10 pound PLine CXX  or a flouro leader.  One is spooled completely with 12 pound mono, which I use for topwaters for stripers. 

I even fish VERY clear lakes like Dale Hollow Lake and Center Hill Lake.  This setup works fine for me.

Do not let others' opinions sway your mind. Go try one. 

 

[E-DOG]

5 hours ago, Lead Head said:

I'll throw in my customary fuego ct endorsement here. If your interested in the tatula ct and have any concerns over the t-wing, do a quick forum search on the fuego ct. It's basically the same reel only without t-wing and you can get it for around $50 on eBay. I personally didn't want a t-wing reel because it just looked like unnecessary moving parts that can wear or fail, so I went with fuegos. I have zero complaints.

yeah I have also been looking into that one

[E-DOG]

about what lb test of each?

[Dangerfield]

 

12 hours ago, JustJames said:

Yes some knots would strucked on T-wings especially bigger diameter line like 12lb mono on 30-40 lb braid.

I have the same experience on my cranking rig and it chopped up my blood knot  after a heavy day of fishing. I use 12lb fluoro with 40lb braid.

6 hours ago, LCG said:

I have both tataula and Fuego as well. I have the same opinion as everyone else, t wing is fine but not a huge thing. It's the Daiwa breaking system that is special. 

 

Save the money and grab a Fuego. Solid smooth reel. 

Same here, I have both, the Fuego is more forgiving on a connection knot but will fail eventually.

 

8 hours ago, Hook2Jaw said:

The Fuego is fire, the Tatula CT is fire.  The former can be had for 67 bucks on eBay, the latter for about 100.  I haven't checked Tatula CT prices lately.

 

The T-Wing system adds maybe ten feet to a typical real world cast.  I'm not sure if a leader knot will pass through the vertical opening of the T-Wing.  I don't use leaders that long, my own are only to the reel.  Typically a few inches away.

 

As everyone has said, I would give the Fuego CT a healthy amount of consideration  and spend the saved money on some tackle, line, or flowers for the lady in your life.

This is the best advice from a purchasing perspective AND keeping your connection knot in front of the 1st line guide. Your guides will wear a connection knot down as well.

 

I'm waiting till the winter when the new Tatula is out and I can scoop some old ones off fleabay for 50%. One can dream

[E-DOG]

I think I'll go with the fuego

[Basseditor]

If you use a long leader, it will catch / hang up sometimes. I use heavy line so it hangs up most of the time.

[Boomstick]

I would suggest just keeping the leader down to around 7 feet or so, so you won't have to worry about it.

[Woody_California]

A buddy of mine got a Tatula CT Type R about a month ago.. Blew my mind! The TWS seems to be the way to go.

[E-DOG]

On 9/9/2018 at 1:40 PM, Woody_California said:

A buddy of mine got a Tatula CT Type R about a month ago.. Blew my mind! The TWS seems to be the way to go.

I now am also looking into the slx reel from shimano