I was told Shimano is the only spinning reel under $100 whose bearings won't rust - is this true?

[Hulkster]

if the nasci is wobbly there is something wrong with it. they are well balanced. in fact, most spinning reels today are. only the really cheap ones wobble these days. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

2 hours ago, Bass Turd said:

I've been waiting for Mike @Delaware Valley Tackle to jump in on the conversation. Maybe he can give some information on ARB bearings in spinning reels. Steel or stainless steel? Specifically Shimano and Pflueger. 

I'm not privy to every element of every reel but as far as I'm concerned "ARB" is marketing jargon for a slightly higher quality bearing. There are grades of SS and assume this is the difference. I can't see a bearing company making anything to intentionally rust or worse yet a prominent reel company sourcing them. The OP is a clear case of neglect. Always makes sure all your tackle: rods, reels, baits, hooks, tools... are dry before storage and keep each clean and properly lubricated. 

 

As brand vs brand spinning reels, Shimano's heavy duty, self contained design is unique and worth points when comparing apples to apples. 

[J Francho]

Are we talking Anti Reverse Bearing or Anti Rust Bearing?

[Ohioguy25]

9 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Are we talking Anti Reverse Bearing or Anti Rust Bearing?

Lol he said ARB stands for Anti Rust Bearing, that would be hilarious if it's reverse omg.

1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I'm not privy to every element of every reel but as far as I'm concerned "ARB" is marketing jargon for a slightly higher quality bearing. There are grades of SS and assume this is the difference. I can't see a bearing company making anything to intentionally rust or worse yet a prominent reel company sourcing them. The OP is a clear case of neglect. Always makes sure all your tackle: rods, reels, baits, hooks, tools... are dry before storage and keep each clean and properly lubricated. 

 

As brand vs brand spinning reels, Shimano's heavy duty, self contained design is unique and worth points when comparing apples to apples. 

So if I go kayaking and have my pole fastened to the deck of my kayak and it is getting splashed lightly most of the day when I'm not using it, I have to take it apart every time immediately after? 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

No not at all. Just lay it out to dry rather than stick it soaking wet in a rod locker, car trunk etc. if it gets dunked even more so. 

 

 

[J Francho]

50 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Lol he said ARB stands for Anti Rust Bearing, that would be hilarious if it's reverse omg.

Yes, he did.  ARB is Shimano's marketing term for their corrosion resistant bearings.  Daiwa calls theirs CRBB.

1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

As brand vs brand spinning reels, Shimano's heavy duty, self contained design is unique and worth points when comparing apples to apples.

The roller bearing referred to here is also termed an ARB by other brands.

[Ohioguy25]

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

Yes, he did.  ARB is Shimano's marketing term for their corrosion resistant bearings.  Daiwa calls theirs CRBB.

The roller bearing referred to here is also termed an ARB by other brands.

Gotcha, are Shimano's particularly better protected than Abu Garcia's bearings?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Generally speaking Shimano bearings are on the higher end of the quality scale in my experience. Corrosion resistance wise...hard to tell. Just take care of whatever you have. 

[J Francho]

13 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Generally speaking Shimano bearings are on the higher end of the quality scale in my experience. Corrosion resistance wise...hard to tell. Just take care of whatever you have. 

I'd echo Mike's opinion as well.

[Ohioguy25]

On August 30, 2018 at 8:44 AM, J Francho said:

I'd echo Mike's opinion as well.

Is it worth returning my Revo X and getting the Nasci?

[MickD]

6 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Is it worth returning my Revo X and getting the Nasci?

Only if you think it is.  I am beginning to think nothing is going to work.

[Boomstick]

On 8/24/2018 at 11:05 PM, Ohioguy25 said:

As I said it was the guy at the specialty shop who advised me that Shimano was probably the only reel under $100 that won't rust, not Field and Stream. If this isn't true then what do you suppose happened to my Pflueger?

I have had my Pflueger for a few years now, and there is absolutely no signs of rust on the bearings or anywhere else on it. Did you leave it on the lake when you weren't using it or something?

 

Anyway, aluminum is aluminum, steel is steel -- they're going to all rust the same regardless of what brand is stamped on it.

[Stephen B]

4 hours ago, Boomstick said:

Anyway, aluminum is aluminum, steel is steel -- they're going to all rust the same regardless of what brand is stamped on it.

Absolutely not! Steel is not steel. There are a ton of different steels such as stainless steel, tool steel, carbon steel, etc. These categories all vary based on there compositions. For example, stainless steel is a classification of steel so there are a multitude of different stainless steels that will have much differing performance in corrosion resistance that are all "stainless steel".

[Boomstick]

7 hours ago, Stephen B said:

Absolutely not! Steel is not steel. There are a ton of different steels such as stainless steel, tool steel, carbon steel, etc. These categories all vary based on there compositions. For example, stainless steel is a classification of steel so there are a multitude of different stainless steels that will have much differing performance in corrosion resistance that are all "stainless steel".

I should re-clarify, the same grade of steel is the same grade of steel. I think you know very well what I meant...

[Stephen B]

6 hours ago, Boomstick said:

I should re-clarify, the same grade of steel is the same grade of steel. I think you know very well what I meant...

Nope. I had no idea what you were intending to say. No problem though.

[Boomstick]

6 hours ago, Stephen B said:

Nope. I had no idea what you were intending to say. No problem though.

Sorry, I'm used to internet know it alls trying to take things out of context at the moment, but yeah I meant if it's made with the same materials, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Have had no issues at all in freshwater.

[skunked_again]

On 8/24/2018 at 5:59 PM, Ohioguy25 said:

I want one I don't have to do anything to 

Buy something cheap. 

[Stephen B]

1 hour ago, Boomstick said:

Sorry, I'm used to internet know it alls trying to take things out of context at the moment, but yeah I meant if it's made with the same materials, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Have had no issues at all in freshwater.

I know exactly what you mean. Agreed. Goodluck fishing!

[Ohioguy25]

On September 2, 2018 at 9:16 PM, MickD said:

Only if you think it is.  I am beginning to think nothing is going to work.

What do you mean nothing is going to work??

[MickD]

I don't think there is anything available that is going to satisfy your requirements.  

[Ohioguy25]

On September 5, 2018 at 8:07 PM, MickD said:

I don't think there is anything available that is going to satisfy your requirements.  

What are my requirements, not rusting?