Super User Catt Posted December 12, 2018 Super User Posted December 12, 2018 3 hours ago, OCdockskipper said: The Rams have shown they can win in an offensive shootout and the Saints have shown they couldn't hold a 21 point lead against them at home  Saint's took the Ram's best offensive comeback effort & still won by 10! 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 12, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 12, 2018 8 hours ago, slonezp said: Hate to say it but the Bears aren't a Superbowl team...yet. I wonder why our D played so poorly against the Giants and played so well against the Rams. This Sunday will be tough because Rodgers and his offense will come at us with a vengeance. We need one more win to solidify a playoff seat. If it doesn't come against the Pack, it will surely be the Vikings. They may not be but only because Trubisky isn't far enough along as he should be.  But, the kid will come around. Nagy's offense is complicated, Fox did him no favors and put his growth back.  The defense is the best the league had seen in years.  I dont care what's at stake, if they beat "that team from Wisconsin" in thier puss yellow and puke green uniforms, the division title is just a bonus in my eyes.  ?   Mike  3 Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Mike L said: They may not be but only because Trubisky isn't far enough along as he should be.  But, the kid will come around. Nagy's offense is complicated, Fox did him no favors and put his growth back.  The defense is the best the league had seen in years.  I dont care what's at stake, if they beat "that team from Wisconsin" in thier puss yellow and puke green uniforms, the division title is just a bonus in my eyes.  ?   Mike  PREACH!! It hurts every time I watch a Mahomes highlight and think we moved up to draft Trubisky before Mahomes was picked, but we have to believe Mitchell will keep improving. I just wish he was more consistently accurate.  We WILL beat the Packers on Sunday and be crowned division champs! Defeat is not an option!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted December 13, 2018 Super User Posted December 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Steveo-1969 said: PREACH!! It hurts every time I watch a Mahomes highlight and think we moved up to draft Trubisky before Mahomes was picked, but we have to believe Mitchell will keep improving. I just wish he was more consistently accurate.  We WILL beat the Packers on Sunday and be crowned division champs! Defeat is not an option!!!!!!!!! You might beat the pack Sunday, but mitch will never be better than average. Watching him play, I don't think he has the smarts. Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 10 hours ago, deaknh03 said: You might beat the pack Sunday, but mitch will never be better than average. Watching him play, I don't think he has the smarts. Interesting opinion. Not sure how you are measuring his intelligence by watching him play though, especially the limited view of the field you have on television. And Wonderlic test scores are very hit and miss. Some of the highest scores are QBs I've never heard of and some of the lowest scores are HOF QBs.  It's a little early in Trubisky's career to already write him off. To be fair he needs a couple more seasons in Nagy's offense before we can call him just average. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted December 13, 2018 Super User Posted December 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Steveo-1969 said: Interesting opinion. Not sure how you are measuring his intelligence by watching him play though, especially the limited view of the field you have on television. And Wonderlic test scores are very hit and miss. Some of the highest scores are QBs I've never heard of and some of the lowest scores are HOF QBs.  It's a little early in Trubisky's career to already write him off. To be fair he needs a couple more seasons in Nagy's offense before we can call him just average. I'm going by watching his play. He doesnt make good reads at all and often makes poor decisions. His fallback is to run and that's not gonna end up well. Perhaps he'll turn the corner but hes had a couple years with no change in his play, so doesnt look good. They will probably give him a season or 2 more because of where they drafted him, but after next year if he doesn't have any improvement, they'll be drafting another guy. Jay Cutler played better for them than mitch does. Mitch just has a superior defense, Cutler did not. 11 minutes ago, Steveo-1969 said: Interesting opinion. Not sure how you are measuring his intelligence by watching him play though, especially the limited view of the field you have on television. And Wonderlic test scores are very hit and miss. Some of the highest scores are QBs I've never heard of and some of the lowest scores are HOF QBs.  It's a little early in Trubisky's career to already write him off. To be fair he needs a couple more seasons in Nagy's offense before we can call him just average. And wonderlic means nothing as far as being able to effectively play QB. Guys with poor skills excel often and peak scores almost never mean great QB play. Steve young is one of the only exceptions I can think of. Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, deaknh03 said: I'm going by watching his play. He doesnt make good reads at all and often makes poor decisions. His fallback is to run and that's not gonna end up well. Perhaps he'll turn the corner but hes had a couple years with no change in his play, so doesnt look good. They will probably give him a season or 2 more because of where they drafted him, but after next year if he doesn't have any improvement, they'll be drafting another guy. Jay Cutler played better for them than mitch does. Mitch just has a superior defense, Cutler did not. And wonderlic means nothing as far as being able to effectively play QB. Guys with poor skills excel often and peak scores almost never mean great QB play. Steve young is one of the only exceptions I can think of. I absolutely respect your opinion. On my TV I can't see downfield and don't know if Trubisky made a bad read or missed an opportunity unless the announcers show it on a replay and talk about it. What I do see are too many inaccurate throws. But you won't find many Bears fans that would rather have Cutler. I'll take Mitchell's youth, enthusiasm, passion and leadership all day over Cutler's shrugging and pouting. And from what I've seen on the interwebs the team culture inside the locker room and at Halas Hall is intoxicating. And Mitch is right in the middle of it.  He only has 23 career starts and only 11 starts in Nagy's offense. In a couple years I might be eating my hat and saying you were correct. But as a Bears fan, for my sanity I have to look at this with rose-colored glasses and believe we will have an above average QB that can help us win a Superbowl, not a Blake Bortles.......  BEAR DOWN!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 13, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Steveo-1969 said: I absolutely respect your opinion. On my TV I can't see downfield and don't know if Trubisky made a bad read or missed an opportunity unless the announcers show it on a replay and talk about it. What I do see are too many inaccurate throws. But you won't find many Bears fans that would rather have Cutler. I'll take Mitchell's youth, enthusiasm, passion and leadership all day over Cutler's shrugging and pouting. And from what I've seen on the interwebs the team culture inside the locker room and at Halas Hall is intoxicating. And Mitch is right in the middle of it.  He only has 23 career starts and only 11 starts in Nagy's offense. In a couple years I might be eating my hat and saying you were correct. But as a Bears fan, for my sanity I have to look at this with rose-colored glasses and believe we will have an above average QB that can help us win a Superbowl, not a Blake Bortles.......  BEAR DOWN!!!!!!!!! No hat eating around here!! ? Couldn't have said it better.      Mike 2 Quote
detroit1 Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 Would someone please tell the Detroit Lions that there is a ROAD to the superbowl…. 4 Quote
Heartland Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 That KC defense has to improve, been saying it all year but they were really bad tonight. Â Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 14, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Heartland said: That KC defense has to improve, been saying it all year but they were really bad tonight.  It's not going to this year unfortunately. This year wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought 9-7 was their absolute ceiling with a new QB, so they've already exceeded that. Their playmakers are still young minus Kelce but TE is a position that doesn't have to be a young speedster. Their future could be really bright if they get a good DC and better LBs and secondary. 1 Quote
Heartland Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: It's not going to this year unfortunately. This year wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought 9-7 was their absolute ceiling with a new QB, so they've already exceeded that. Their playmakers are still young minus Kelce but TE is a position that doesn't have to be a young speedster. Their future could be really bright if they get a good DC and better LBs and secondary. You nailed it. Just need to keep the team together, work through the free agent market and make wise draft picks. Think with our fantastic QB it will be much easier to entice top talent. The future looks good, amazing season.  Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 14, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 14, 2018 Kc Defense looked better in the first half than the second. As a TN alum, I should point out that Eric berry played the first half and sat the second. Coincidence?I don't know but That guy has been through a lot, good to see him lead the team in tackles for the first half. Quote
Heartland Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Kc Defense looked better in the first half than the second. As a TN alum, I should point out that Eric berry played the first half and sat the second. Coincidence?I don't know but That guy has been through a lot, good to see him lead the team in tackles for the first half. I noticed that also, not sure why, maybe better adjustments by the other team.   I was really nice to see Berry on the field, he is an inspiration to his team mates. I don't want to be to critical because it was his first game back, but I think the number of tackles he made might have a little something to do with him struggling a little with his coverage. In other words he had to make the tackle as a result of allowing the reception. Maybe we will make a little noise it the playoffs this year, that would sure be fun. Quote
Dirtyeggroll Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 Chiefs are repeating last season. Â The Chiefs secondary is terrible and everyone knows it. The league has caught on to all of the trick plays. Â Unfortunately, if the Chiefs are ever able to put together a strong secondary the heavy hitters on the line will probably have already moved on. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted December 15, 2018 Super User Posted December 15, 2018 With no dog in last night's game, I can say it was awesome. LA looks legit, their coach has balls..kc on the other hand, their coach proves time and time again, when it really counts, he sucks. 2 Quote
Super User Gundog Posted December 15, 2018 Super User Posted December 15, 2018 Every game I see Pat Mahomes in he makes incredible plays look easy. But I have to say that I said the same thing about Colin Kaepernick, Nick Foles, Steve Beuerlein, Robert Griffin and a lot of other QBs that, although they looked good for a few seasons, eventually faded. The NFL coaches have a way of creating countermeasures to offset talented opponents. 15 hours ago, deaknh03 said: .kc on the other hand, their coach proves time and time again, when it really counts, he sucks. I know a lot of Eagles fans who would agree with you about that. Andy Reid was at one time the most hated and liked man in Philly, in the same year. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted December 16, 2018 Super User Posted December 16, 2018 Division Champs DA BEARS!!! 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 16, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 16, 2018 YEAH BABY!!!!! Â Here we come! Â Â Â Â Mike 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted December 16, 2018 Super User Posted December 16, 2018 Vikings fan here. Can't say I'm jumping for joy about the Bears winning the division, but I'm glad the Packers didn't. I think the Bears are pretty locked into that #3 seed (barring a collapse from LA and NO) so its looking more likely that the Vikings will be visiting Soldier Field in the Wild Card round. 1 Quote
Super User Gundog Posted December 17, 2018 Super User Posted December 17, 2018 Steelers may have lost to Oakland but we beat the Pats! Hooray! Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 17, 2018 Global Moderator Posted December 17, 2018 14 hours ago, gimruis said: Vikings fan here. Can't say I'm jumping for joy about the Bears winning the division, but I'm glad the Packers didn't. I think the Bears are pretty locked into that #3 seed (barring a collapse from LA and NO) so its looking more likely that the Vikings will be visiting Soldier Field in the Wild Card round. That would be back to back games with you guys. Interesting....  Im still holding out for *2. Long shot I know      Mike  1 Quote
detroit1 Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 'binskys got bad aim...no superbowl for you. Quote
greentrout Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018    the last few weeks the saints have been in the top stats for defense in the NFL -- 1st in some ... bodes well for the playoffs ...IN THE DOME... home field advantage ... WHO DAT!  http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/   1 Quote
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