Stephen B Posted July 21, 2018 Posted July 21, 2018 Has anyone else seen the new fluorocarbon from Seaguar. Seaguar is saying this is the thinnest leader material they have ever made. I am extremely interested. I will attach a couple links to videos on YouTube for those interested. I saw a video on Instagram and I could barely see the line on the spool. It appears to be very high quality. Quote
Stephen B Posted July 21, 2018 Author Posted July 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, TylerT123 said: I can’t imagine backlashing with that. Haha definitely. I just found on the Seaguar website that it will be from $18.99 to $34.99 depending on pound test for 25 yd spools. 1 Quote
TylerT123 Posted July 21, 2018 Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Stephen B said: Haha definitely. I just found on the Seaguar website that it will be from $18.99 to $34.99 depending on pound test for 25 yd spools. Jeez, I’ve never tried fluoro, I’ve used braid for like 10 minutes and I definitely haven’t used a leader yet. Quote
finatic Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Couple weeks ago I got some Seaguar InvizX 12lb. I spooled it up and after casting with it for just a day I can tell you it's the worst line I've ever used. It loops, tangles and breaks easily. Doesn't tie knots worth a crap either. I got my money back and returned to Power Pro. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 Fluoro separates the men from the boys. You have to know how to cast, tie a knot, and control the spool. I've used Invisx from 6 to 20# sizes for well over a decade, and issues are minimal. My personal best smallmouth was caught on 6# Invisx. I just changed out that spool after five seasons. I've been testing the new Finesse fluoro, and I gotta say, it's pretty darn close to as good as Tatsu. I did not get any Gold Label leader to try. To me, it's a little pricey for leader. I've done fine with their Blue Label. On 7/20/2018 at 11:06 PM, TylerT123 said: I can’t imagine backlashing with that. It's leader material. Are you really worried about backlashing the first 6' or so? I mean, that just isn't going to happen. 2 1 Quote
TylerT123 Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, J Francho said: Are you really worried about backlashing the first 6' or so? I mean, that just isn't going to happen. No, I didn’t know it was just leader material, I thought it was regular fluorocarbon. 1 Quote
Tommyjon34 Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I don't know about most guys here, but I just use invizx as my leader. Stopped paying that $16 here in Canada every time I needed another 25 yards of leader. 200 yds lasts me a lot longer and I don't personally notice too much difference. Maybe I just don't fish enough to see the difference between the two Quote
Super User NHBull Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 I do like smackdown but have to admit that I have had more breakoffs than any other braid. When I run leaders, I usually use blue label, but there to many of us got bad batches ( we were made whole). These days, I tend to run straight braid or a premium mono ( Defier) Quote
RyneB Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I love Invizx, never had any issues. It handles everything I throw at it. 2 Quote
Stephen B Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, RyneB said: I love Invizx, never had any issues. It handles everything I throw at it. Invizx is a great line. It is very manageable, supple, and never had any issues with it. I still use Invizx but I also use Sunline Sniper, Seaguar Tatsu, and Sunline Shooter. IMO Sniper is probably the most versatile and its not too expensive but all have the place in my rotation. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Stephen B said: Invizx is a great line. It is very manageable, supple, and never had any issues with it. I still use Invizx but I also use Sunline Sniper, Seaguar Tatsu, and Sunline Shooter. IMO Sniper is probably the most versatile and affordable but all have the place in my rotation. I use Invizx as well. If you're an Amazon user (or Abuser) like I am - they routinely offer bulks spool at least 20% less $$ than TW. Often times it can be had for over 40% less $$ https://www.amazon.com/Seaguar-Invizx-Fluorocarbon-Fishing-12-Pound/dp/B002YKKIA6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1532368258&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Seaguar%2BInvizx%2BFluorocarbon%2B1000%2Byards%2BFishing%2BLine&th=1&psc=1 A-Jay 1 Quote
Todd2 Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, J Francho said: Fluoro separates the men from the boys. You mean the money from the wallet? ? 1 Quote
Stephen B Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Todd2 said: You mean the money from the wallet? ? Definitely haha. Back in the day when I used Stren Original my wallet was a bit thicker now I use high end fluoro.... Haha 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Todd2 said: You mean the money from the wallet? ? Actually, fluoro is much more cost efficient than mono or copoly, and even braid. It does not suffer from UV degradation, and does not fade or fray like braid. It's typical to get three seasons or more, and often more. The only reason I have to respool is when it's getting low on the spool, not from any lack of performance. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, J Francho said: Actually, fluoro is much more cost efficient than mono or copoly, and even braid. It does not suffer from UV degradation, and does not fade or fray like braid. It's typical to get three seasons or more, and often more. The only reason I have to respool is when it's getting low on the spool, not from any lack of performance. I'm finding this out myself finally J. I still change it or end for end it one time after some 'serious strain'. Might be paranoid though. A-Jay 1 Quote
Stephen B Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I'm finding this out myself finally J. I still change it or end for end it one time after some 'serious strain'. Might be paranoid though. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 the red anodizing trim on the spool of my OG Stradic CI4s faded before I changed the line out. Seriously, lol. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Stephen B said: And there's very little in fishing that's More Final (or ticks me off more) - than Broken Line. A-Jay 1 Quote
Todd2 Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, J Francho said: Actually, fluoro is much more cost efficient than mono or copoly, and even braid. It does not suffer from UV degradation, and does not fade or fray like braid. It's typical to get three seasons or more, and often more. The only reason I have to respool is when it's getting low on the spool, not from any lack of performance. Fluoro has it's advantages.... but more cost effective than mono? I swap mono once or twice a year. Big Game is like $10 for 1500 yards. But I do like the feel of fluoro, tried it several times, just not for me. For what it's worth, Invisx was the best fluoro out of the 3 maybe 4 that I tried over the years. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 42 minutes ago, Todd2 said: I swap mono once or twice a year. Big Game is like $10 for 1500 yards. I definitely change mono or copoly out more than that. It seems to lose it's flexibility and suppleness after a month of hard fishing. Admittedly, I don't use Big Game. More likely to use Seaguar Rippin' mono or P-line CXX. Where I actually want a floating line, like for topwaters, I use Tuf-Line Supercast. 1 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, J Francho said: Actually, fluoro is much more cost efficient than mono or copoly, and even braid. It does not suffer from UV degradation, and does not fade or fray like braid. It's typical to get three seasons or more, and often more. The only reason I have to respool is when it's getting low on the spool, not from any lack of performance. For the thrifty braid user who backs his reels and reverses ends at 2 seasons, a 150 yard spool can last 8 years Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2018 Super User Posted July 23, 2018 Eight years sounds VERY optimistic. Braid is toast after a couple months. Reverse it, get another couple months. By then, so much has been cut off due to fraying, it's too low on the spool. I've never gotten more than two seasons out of a heavy use setup. The zebes and quagga mussels up here are brutal. There some lakes where they even grow on the milfoil and coontail itself. Quote
CrankFate Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I am a die hard fluoro user and I love seaguar. But once any fishing line or leader material is advertised as thin I have to shake my head. In my opinion thinner is not always better and in most cases thinner is overrated. I put toughness and invisible at the top of my list. Quote
lo n slo Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, RyneB said: I love Invizx, never had any issues. It handles everything I throw at it. same here 1 Quote
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