Super User burrows Posted July 27, 2018 Super User Posted July 27, 2018 I might have to cancel my order, some things came up and I’m not sure if I’ll be able to appease the bait monkey this time around and I’m not sure if it’s the rite thing to do at this specific moment ? see what happens? Dangit!!!!!!!! Quote
puddlepuncher Posted July 27, 2018 Author Posted July 27, 2018 TW just updated ETA to Oct 15. I wonder if those who ordered already will still get it in Aug and this newer date is for newer orders. @Burros Sorry to hear that. I'm going to email ALF and if their ETA is truly Oct I may cancel as well and just pick it up for cheaper next spring. 1 Quote
Bermise Posted July 27, 2018 Posted July 27, 2018 The price will be the same in the Spring as it is now On 7/25/2018 at 9:19 PM, Burros said: Good for you, I haven’t slept since icast 9 hours ago, Burros said: I might have to cancel my order, some things came up and I’m not sure if I’ll be able to appease the bait monkey this time around and I’m not sure if it’s the rite thing to do at this specific moment ? see what happens? Dangit!!!!!!!! Now you can catch up on sleep 1 Quote
puddlepuncher Posted July 28, 2018 Author Posted July 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Bermise said: The price will be the same in the Spring as it is now Not on Ebay. Every hot release in the last 2 years has been on Ebay a few months after hitting the shelves for a significant discount. I snagged a Chronarch MGL last Spring a month and a half after release for $200, the Curado K was easily had for $140. Same goes for Daiwa. Combine the reduced prices with the 20% specials they run quite often it's a no brainer for me. Quote
Super User burrows Posted July 28, 2018 Super User Posted July 28, 2018 5 hours ago, puddlepuncher said: Not on Ebay. Every hot release in the last 2 years has been on Ebay a few months after hitting the shelves for a significant discount. I snagged a Chronarch MGL last Spring a month and a half after release for $200, the Curado K was easily had for $140. Same goes for Daiwa. Combine the reduced prices with the 20% specials they run quite often it's a no brainer for me. It’s true but the chronarc mgl holds its value pretty well still,lucky to get it under 250 new, the k didn’t hold its value like I thought it would and can be easily had for 140 I’m hoping that the resale value of the dc holds better than the k but only time will tell. Resale value is important to me because I buy resell or trade a lot of my gear eventually. The curado dc is a sweet reel and I’m still on the fence specially because I think that the fascination of DC will die down pretty quickly. If resale is 200$ in a year from now it would have been a good reel to put some money into it really depends on the quality and performance of the product. The older shimanos like the core 50s and even the chronarc and curado E series’s held their value significantly. The k being a good reel however in such high demand they were pumping them out of the factory like hot cakes and I think a lot of qc was over looked not to mention they are coming from Malaysia not Japan a lot of factory defects came out of them although the problems were easily fixed not big problems the reviews for defects made for a quick dive in resale value in my opinion. I’m hoping this won’t be the case with the DC although I don’t plan on selling it if I do so decide to spend my denarius on it. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted July 28, 2018 Super User Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BaitFinesse said: The price drop of the reels on EBay and Amazon has nothing to do with the quality of the reel. Traditionally the reels price point was kept fixed by retailers and the manufactures often dictated to the retailers the price the reels should be sold for and discouraged selling of reels below their desired price point. I heard that Shimano used to be big into doing this. EBay and Amazon allow anyone and everyone to sell reels and this results in more competition to reduce the price to move the most volume of reels as a seller. If a reel is in hot demand you can lower the price and make less profit per reel but the large volume of reels sold makes up for price decrease. Reels that are sold for close to MSRP on EBay or Amazon tells me that the volume of sales for the reel must be low. Go try to buy a Daiwa T3 Balistic. It was a plastic pos everyone hated and there still some old stock out there for sale and they go for full retail when/if they sell. If a reel is discounted like the Curado K or Tatula reels then you are seeing the real going rate of the reel as dictated be supply and demand. The high demand is a good thing and means the reel is doing well. Will the Curado K DC sell well and sell for below MSRP like the Curado K or will it sit on shelves and be sold for close to MSRP like the Casitas? I don't know. I doubt it will move units like a Curado K but it should sell well if it lives up to the hype. Touché ! Quote
puddlepuncher Posted July 29, 2018 Author Posted July 29, 2018 13 hours ago, BaitFinesse said: The price drop of the reels on EBay and Amazon has nothing to do with the quality of the reel. Traditionally the reels price point was kept fixed by retailers and the manufactures often dictated to the retailers the price the reels should be sold for and discouraged selling of reels below their desired price point. I heard that Shimano used to be big into doing this. EBay and Amazon allow anyone and everyone to sell reels and this results in more competition to reduce the price to move the most volume of reels as a seller. If a reel is in hot demand you can lower the price and make less profit per reel but the large volume of reels sold makes up for price decrease. Reels that are sold for close to MSRP on EBay or Amazon tells me that the volume of sales for the reel must be low. Go try to buy a Daiwa T3 Balistic. It was a plastic pos everyone hated and there still some old stock out there for sale and they go for full retail when/if they sell. If a reel is discounted like the Curado K or Tatula reels then you are seeing the real going rate of the reel as dictated be supply and demand. The high demand is a good thing and means the reel is doing well. Will the Curado K DC sell well and sell for below MSRP like the Curado K or will it sit on shelves and be sold for close to MSRP like the Casitas? I don't know. I doubt it will move units like a Curado K but it should sell well if it lives up to the hype. Great points. I don't necessarily think a reel has to be in high demand for it to sell lower on Ebay. First and foremost someone selling online has nowhere near the overhead a retailer has. Someone with a mortar and pestle shop has to sell at MSRP to cover other expenses. Other thing I've found about Ebay is don't be fooled by the higher priced listings. It costs nearly nothing to list something at an obviously inflated value and hope at some point someone bites. Look at Burros point about the vintage Shimano reels and the premium they now demand. IMO the people listing that T3 are trying to cash in by deceiving those not familiar with reel by presenting a near vintage reel at vintage prices. They are also hoping to catch those thinking they are getting the T3, the higher end offering from that year. Yes both were Zaion bodies. I'd agree the Curado is the most appealing DC reel that I've seen so far. Shimano did well with the K and this was the perfect time for them to finally introduce a DC reel to the US market. I've used an older Met as well as the Scorpion DC and although casting them was an experience, the action while reeling left me wanting. The Antares is just too bulky. The smaller profile as well as the smoother performance of the K has me more excited than I can remember. I just with they made a DC reel with a CI4 frame....now I'm just kidding you. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted July 31, 2018 Super User Posted July 31, 2018 Has anyone gotten there reel yet ? I think the first batches got sent out since dates for preorder got pushed back again? Although I did cancel bait monkey got me and I reordered threw TD I spoke to them today they told me one to two weeks? Quote
Bermise Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 It’s in stock at TW. Only a few available. Lefty and righty versions 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted July 31, 2018 Super User Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Bermise said: It’s in stock at TW. Only a few available. Lefty and righty versions ? I think they have a couple but in the 6 speed and the rest are tw has them till October. Quote
Junger Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 My TW order status is shipped, and I have a UPS tracking number, but it is not updated yet. Most likely it will arrive next Monday from CA to DC. 3 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 1, 2018 Global Moderator Posted August 1, 2018 Local tackle store got some in. 1 Quote
puddlepuncher Posted August 1, 2018 Author Posted August 1, 2018 After reading these posts I've decided not to visit any store that sells fishing equipment until I get mine. I'd be too tempted and end up with another one. I was going to cancel my order too. For some reason I forgot I ordered mine through ALF I was checking my account on TW when I happened to click on Met MGL DC's first off and saw they had a few lefties in. Sadly the monkey got me again, now I'm waiting on 2 reels in the mail and I never got around to canceling the original order on ALF. Now to pick up a rod or two. Quote
Texan89 Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) I received an email Tuesday saying my dc was on the way, and it will be here tomorrow. Update: looks like it’s ahead of schedule!!! It will be at the house today. Edited August 2, 2018 by Texan89 Update 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted August 2, 2018 Super User Posted August 2, 2018 Seems like everyone is getting their reels on time this wasn’t the case for the k. I’m wondering if their is less demand because it’s a bit more pricey? I’m surprised I haven’t see a bunch of YouTube unboxings yet. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted August 2, 2018 Super User Posted August 2, 2018 Where I pre ordered from got a small shipment of regular 6:2:1 right handers. No lefties yet though. I’m one of the first batch of lefties to go out when they arrive. Quote
looking45 Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 They are in stock August 1 at all Fisherman Warehouse stores in Ca Quote
Bermise Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Texan89 said: I received an email Tuesday saying my dc was on the way, and it will be here tomorrow. Update: looks like it’s ahead of schedule!!! It will be at the house today. That is good news. I am in the Houston area as well but mine is scheduled for delivery on Monday. Quote
bigmouthfordaiwadiscounts Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 Ebay discounts and the like are simply vendors not honoring the MAP (Manufacturers Advertised Price) in order to compete with the big online retailers and brick and mortar stores, nothing more, nothing less. Has nothing to do with quality. Ive heard that 2 certain companies are going to enforce stricter MAP so these Ebay discounts may be going away soon. Quote
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