Russ E Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 I was walking up the boat ramp to get my truck and met Ned Kahde standing in his boat. I had seen him on the lake several times but, our paths never crossed. he had just finished for the day and struck a conservation on fishing that day. Not surprisingly, he caught twice as many fish as I did. what did surprise me is how modest he is. He is a wealth of knowledge and is willing to share everything. One thing I did learn from him. Is the midwest finesse system is more than just a mushroom head with a TRD or Zinkerz. they use several different baits on the mushroom head. He also does not call it the ned rig. As we parted ways he gave me a Z man prototype bait called the TRD Crawz. it goes on the mushroom head just like a standard TRD (it should be on the market in late summer) Looks Like it has a lot of potential. Here is the TRD Crawz next to a standard TRD. 11 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted July 18, 2018 Super User Posted July 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, Weedwhacker said: I was walking up the boat ramp to get my truck and met Ned Kahde standing in his boat. I had seen him on the lake several times but, our paths never crossed. he had just finished for the day and struck a conservation on fishing that day. Not surprisingly, he caught twice as many fish as I did. what did surprise me is how modest he is. He is a wealth of knowledge and is willing to share everything. One thing I did learn from him. Is the midwest finesse system is more than just a mushroom head with a TRD or Zinkerz. they use several different baits on the mushroom head. He also does not call it the ned rig. As we parted ways he gave me a Z man prototype bait called the TRD Crawz. it goes on the mushroom head just like a standard TRD (it should be on the market in late summer) Looks Like it has a lot of potential. Very cool ? The two comments go hand in hand. Marketing and popularity has killed the understanding of the original system by using the term "Ned rig," a term Ned initially despised and refused to use himself. I believe even he has relented somewhat in this regard as there is no getting away from it anymore. 3 1 Quote
tander Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 That's awesome, would love to fish with Ned for a day. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted July 18, 2018 Super User Posted July 18, 2018 That was cool story thanks for sharing that. I seen him on a you tube video. Pretty trippy that ppl will be using a rig named after him for many generations to come. 1 Quote
Glaucus Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 That Craw is going to be stupid on river Smallies. 3 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted July 19, 2018 Global Moderator Posted July 19, 2018 Pretty cool! 1 Quote
volzfan59 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Glaucus, I agree with you. I can't wait to take that craw to the Holston or French Broad Rivers! Smallies beware. 2 Quote
Super User Sam Posted July 19, 2018 Super User Posted July 19, 2018 Meeting and speaking with the movers and shakers in the bass fishing industry makes the sport more personal and friendly. Other than NASCAR, it is difficult to meet and speak with any other industry's inventors and research people on a regular basis. Actually meeting people like Ned, Gary, Big-O, Bobby, Glenn, Keith Jones, and so many others who have given the sport their blood, sweat and tears to make a good product is something that we can be thankful for and embrace. We enjoy a sport that expects and wants this to happen. Couple that to the pros who will stop and speak with you and take a photo or give you an autograph and you have one great sport where everyone shares information and helps each other. Great story. Thanks for sharing it with us. 2 Quote
Smokinal Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Here we are boyos: https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Z-Man_TRD_Crawz_6pk/descpage-ZMTRDC.html Pre-order now Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 19, 2018 Global Moderator Posted July 19, 2018 Yep, he's very down to earth. Since I fish during the week and on the same lakes, we cross paths frequently. I've managed to make his Midwest Finesee report a time or two even. He's always willing to volunteer information and has lots of it to give. You're right that the pursuit of money has completely clouded what MWF fishing is all about. 3 Quote
Russ E Posted July 19, 2018 Author Posted July 19, 2018 What impressed me most about Ned is he is 78 years old and still pursuing those 100 bass days. The day I met him, They only caught 48. A slow day I guess ?. hope I can do that when I reach that age. Quote
thinkingredneck Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 I am impressed by those midwest finesse guys. They have a system and don't wonder, "what should I try today?" Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted July 22, 2018 Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 4:31 PM, Weedwhacker said: I was walking up One thing I did learn from him. Is the midwest finesse system is more than just a mushroom head with a TRD or Zinkerz. they use several different baits on the mushroom head. He also does not call it the ned rig. Sounds like a cool experience, but geez, I've been preaching this for years along with t-9 and a few others lol 1 Quote
Russ E Posted July 22, 2018 Author Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, IndianaFinesse said: Sounds like a cool experience, but geez, I've been preaching this for years along with t-9 and a few others lol I know there are several variations to the ned rig, but I thought that all came about with the recent popularity. I did not realize, the original Midwest finesse guys, used so many different baits. I always thought they kept the bait selections to a bare minimum and just varied the retrieve. Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted July 22, 2018 Posted July 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Weedwhacker said: I know there are several variations to the Ned rig, but I thought that all came about with the recent popularity. I did not realize, the original Midwest finesse guys, used so many different baits. I always thought they kept the bait selections to a bare minimum and just varied the retrieve. The true original midwest finesse guys (started by Chuck woods) started out just as guys trying to catch a bunch of fish on the cheap, using things like Beatle spins and marrabu jigs. This ran somewhat parallel to early slider fishing btw. This progressed through a few phases where certain techniques were popular until they started using small plastics on a small, light wire and small sized mushroom heads fished in shallow water. A few years later the popularity of the technique exploded, resulting in zman marketing and labeling "Ned rig" components and have been riding that train introducing new plastics to capitalize on it since then, unfortunately muddying the waters as to it's definition. The new upsized components are trying to force fit it into something it isn't. 2 Quote
Hillbilly Bennett Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 8:58 PM, volzfan59 said: Glaucus, I agree with you. I can't wait to take that craw to the Holston or French Broad Rivers! Smallies beware. I love to fish the Holston. I hit it several times a year and I wish it was a little closer. Have you ever fished the Sevier Detention Reservoir? I hit it a few times a year too. 1 Quote
volzfan59 Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Hillbilly Bennett said: I love to fish the Holston. I hit it several times a year and I wish it was a little closer. Have you ever fished the Sevier Detention Reservoir? I hit it a few times a year too. I don't believe that I've ever heard about the Detention Reservoir? I'm going to look it up though. The Holston is a great river to fish! I love to hit the Rogersville area and fish closer to home. Quote
Hillbilly Bennett Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 8:58 PM, volzfan59 said: Glaucus, I agree with you. I can't wait to take that craw to the Holston or French Broad Rivers! Smallies beware. 9 hours ago, volzfan59 said: I don't believe that I've ever heard about the Detention Reservoir? I'm going to look it up though. The Holston is a great river to fish! I love to hit the Rogersville area and fish closer to home. Rogersville is where I always go as well. The detention reservoir is where the old steam plant is in Rogersville and it’s a pretty good place to go fish. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted September 6, 2018 Super User Posted September 6, 2018 Ned is the : "Bass Whisperer" ... I'm lucky if I can fish one or two of the Ned Rig retrieves - he has 6 retrieves that he uses ! Quote
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