What is your Jerkbait set up?

[Dangerfield]

33 minutes ago, TotalNoob said:

I feel like a mono leader would prevent the lure from darting as crisply and would result in having a sub par feel and interfere with establishing a rhythm when working a jerkbait. I base this statement on the sensitivity and low stretch properties of braid and fluoro. Can you help me to fill in the missing pieces in how I'm interpreting this? 

With mono, because of the stretch, you don't feel the crisp darts (jerks) from the bait like you would if you were using braid or fluoro. I believe and I think most will back me up is that you still get the same darting/ripping action using mono, you just don't feel it the same way. I noticed the exact same thing when I switched my cranking rig from fluoro to a mono leader. It's d**n near impossible to know what's going on.

[Dwight Hottle]

30 minutes ago, TotalNoob said:

Yes, absolutely. Should have asked that in the OP, glad the responses picked up on that and mostly reflected line type. 

Why Moderate Action and why a mono leader (as opposed to fluoro)? You state that the whole idea is to have some stretch in the system but isn't the desired crisp delivery (I like that wording btw) achieved better with a Fast Action rod and braid to fluoro? 

 

I feel like a mono leader would prevent the lure from darting as crisply and would result in having a sub par feel and interfere with establishing a rhythm when working a jerkbait. I base this statement on the sensitivity and low stretch properties of braid and fluoro. Can you help me to fill in the missing pieces in how I'm interpreting this? 

The reason I like moderate action rods for jerk bait fishing with braid is because there is no stretch with braid. The moderate action rod keeps the fish hooked without tearing out hooks because of lack of give. I like to use mono leaders better than fluoro because the mono ties stronger knots without burning like fluoro is prone to do. The visibility factor is almost nil between the two for most applications using jerk baits.

Braid is inherently crisp because of its lack of stretch. I can use a moderate action high quality modulus rod putting stretch into the system & still get a crisp delivery by using braid. If I use braid with a fast action rod I get a super crisp delivery but will pull hooks out because there is no give in the system. 

Fluoro has just as much stretch as mono. Hard mono, the springy stuff has less stretch than soft mono the supple stuff. Fluoro is perceived to have less stretch because it transmits more feel on slack line than mono. The mono leader does not prevent the lure from darting crisply. I watch all the baits I use boatside for how they react to rod tip movements. I have experimented with using fast action rods with fluoro along side moderate rods with braid & leader. I have not found the fast action rod with fluoro to be superior. The proof is in the pudding (catch success).  

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Action  is where the rod initially bends. Power is how easily/hard it bends. 

[Catfish]

 

Powell Endurance 6104 M Daiwa Fuego CT 8:1  10lb Izorline

[fishwizzard]

On 7/16/2018 at 9:51 AM, J Francho said:

1.  The same characteristics I prefer for jerk/slash baits is what I like for walking/popping topwater baits.  It's a a good short range, sniper style spinnerbait setup.

2.  Black Bass

3.  Casting

4. & 5.  I use an old Avid AC62MXF 6'2" Medium, X-fast

6.   I don't find gear ratio matters that much.  I'm currently using 6.3:1, but I've used faster and slower.  I was always able to adjust.

7.  I'd really just like to have duplicates of this rod.  It features a shorter rear grip, which makes the tip twitches more comfortable.  It's actually about the same length from the real seat to the tip as a 6'6" model, just a shorter rear grip.

My jerking/popping/walking set up is exactly the same as J Francho’s.  I have an Aldebaran 50 on mine and the combo is beyond light. I generaly don’t like XF actions for anthing where I want accurate casting but other then that it’s a great little combo for fishing tubes and small jigs in streams and shallow rivers. 

 

I have been tempted to cut the trigger off of my rod however, I think it would make it more comfortable for the full palming grip I like using with it but I have yet to be bold enough to try it 

[BoatSquirrel]

Some folks believe the pros fish what their sponsors tell them to.  Those are called chumps and are not pros for long.  I defer to the jerkbait master on this issue, Mr. Vandam who throws his on a MH fast 6’10” Fast action rod with 7.1 reel.  Fast action so the rod does not eat up the momentum of the jerk, and always have slack in the line.

 

[FishTank]

Depending on how heavy the lure.....

 

G. Loomis 6'6'' MH Fast MBR783 GLX with a Shimano Core > Softer tip than most fast rods. Does well with lighter baits.

G. Loomis 7' H MBR843 GLX/IMX with a Daiwa Zillion HS > The IMX is stiffer and does better with deep jerkbaits and the GLX is better for heavier baits in shallow water 

 

Both setups get 12lb Seagur Invisix.  I am not a huge fan of mono or braid for jerkbaits.  Mono seems to stretch and fray more with this application and I tend to pull hard and quick on hook sets so with braid I have been known to miss a few hooksets.