Super User J Francho Posted July 13, 2018 Super User Posted July 13, 2018 It's taught me to thoroughly dissect a spot, much in the vain of Bill Murphy. It's not as difficult, or time consuming as you'd think. And, I'm often surprised by how many fish are in a spot. I've been experimenting with reversing the Mirage drive, as well. Basically, paddling in, giving them a flick when needed. It's not 100% easy, and you do need one hand free to do it, but it takes seconds. The 180 system is easier (I've used it), but Hobie kept the price target at $2000, and 180 would have meant making a sacrifice somewhere else (probably the seat, which is great). Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 14, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 14, 2018 12 hours ago, J Francho said: It's taught me to thoroughly dissect a spot, much in the vain of Bill Murphy. It's not as difficult, or time consuming as you'd think. And, I'm often surprised by how many fish are in a spot. I've been experimenting with reversing the Mirage drive, as well. Basically, paddling in, giving them a flick when needed. It's not 100% easy, and you do need one hand free to do it, but it takes seconds. The 180 system is easier (I've used it), but Hobie kept the price target at $2000, and 180 would have meant making a sacrifice somewhere else (probably the seat, which is great). It's good to know the "testing" you're doing. In terms of using anchors, I've done that so much, and much prefer using my TM and anchor stick. Obviously, we make do with what we have. I'm know I'd make due if I had the Compass or Pelican with only FW drive. When spoiled with a TM, it is a little hard to consider going "backwards", so-to-speak . When I'm again in the market for a new yak, the Compass and Pelican will likely be on my radar. Until then, I've gotta make due with what I've got or my wife will give me a permanent bed in the dog crate in the utility room!! LOL. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 14, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 14, 2018 Riot Kayaks @ ICAST - pedal kayak at $999 AND!! Will fit Hobie drives?! Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 14, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 14, 2018 I changed the Topic title to reflect thread better since adding more pedal-driven yaks. FeelFree Dorado. Old Town Topwater Series PDL Kayak | ICAST 2018 $1999 4 yr warranty on the drive, lifetime on the hull. Looks really nice. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 14, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 14, 2018 NuCanoe Flint Jackson Kayak Big Rig FDHD Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 15, 2018 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 15, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 7:30 PM, Darren. said: Mirage Drive patent expired, I guess. Actually, the old, original design patent expired because Hobie has greatly improved the design to the point it's obsolete. In fact, they had to get a new patent on the better version because it changed so much. 1 Quote
kenmitch Posted July 15, 2018 Posted July 15, 2018 The Riot Mako price point looks good. Been trying to get my brother out on the water with me. Maybe it'll entice him. The new St Croix Mojo Yak series rods kind of caught my eye as I already have a Yak. Quote
sc1978 Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 I have been watching the icast vids on these new pedal drive yaks. I think I would buy the pelican catch 130 hd since its using the orginal hobie drive. you can definetely do up grade drive which is 100% compatible. Next would be the mako which "so they say" that their drive well can fit any pedal drive, also since it is $999, thats a pretty good deal. BTW...I love my compass ? 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 17, 2018 Super User Posted July 17, 2018 Dude, rectangle hatch? Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted July 17, 2018 Super User Posted July 17, 2018 I was actually disappointed at the Pelican's pricing of their pedal drive. $1499 seems a bit much as the paddle version of the catch 120 is around $750, half the price. The pedal drive costs as much as the kayak? Quote
YoTone Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, NYWayfarer said: I was actually disappointed at the Pelican's pricing of their pedal drive. $1499 seems a bit much as the paddle version of the catch 120 is around $750, half the price. The pedal drive costs as much as the kayak? Yes 1 Quote
sc1978 Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, J Francho said: Dude, rectangle hatch? yes....is that good or bad? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 17, 2018 Super User Posted July 17, 2018 Just that mine is round. I really dig the bigger hatch you have, though. Maybe they made a change while in production: Quote
sc1978 Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 actually no, I bought PA hatch kit when i bought my compass. I moved the circle hatch to the front where there is a mold you can cut out. https://youtu.be/4Ti-Jpy734I 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 17, 2018 Super User Posted July 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, sc1978 said: actually no, I bought PA hatch kit when i bought my compass. I moved the circle hatch to the front where there is a mold you can cut out. https://youtu.be/4Ti-Jpy734I Perfect mod! 2 hours ago, NYWayfarer said: I was actually disappointed at the Pelican's pricing of their pedal drive. $1499 seems a bit much as the paddle version of the catch 120 is around $750, half the price. The pedal drive costs as much as the kayak? If you buy the Mirage separately, I think it's around $850. I don't have the pricing in front of me, but it's in that neighborhood. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 17, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, J Francho said: If you buy the Mirage separately, I think it's around $850. I don't have the pricing in front of me, but it's in that neighborhood. Mirage sans reverse starts around ~$620 on up to ~$840 for the 180, at least that's what Austin Kayak lists... 1 Quote
archman Posted July 21, 2018 Posted July 21, 2018 Are there any Riot Kayak dealers in the states? It seems like they are all in Canada or Europe. Have they said when this $999 will be available for sale? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 21, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 21, 2018 13 hours ago, archman said: Are there any Riot Kayak dealers in the states? It seems like they are all in Canada or Europe. Have they said when this $999 will be available for sale? Several carry the brand according to their distribution. Some probably don't have the new stuff listed yet. http://paddlekd.com/directories/ Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 22, 2018 Author Super User Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, archman said: That still says Montreal is the closest. Closest to what? GetOutdoors down in NC is closest to me, and they are listed as a Riot dealer though their (GO's) website doesn't yet indicate it. Likely means they are a dealer on paper until they buy stock. You can buy them on Amazon, but that doesn't help with getting a feel for the yak first. Plus the 10' is just over $1k there, likely due to Amazon's Prime "free" shipping costing $150. Edit: or it could be in Canadian dollars? Montreal is also home of Riot, where they're made. You'll get better info on their Facebook page, they'll even answer your queries. https://www.facebook.com/riotkayak/ Edited July 22, 2018 by Darren. Quote
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