casting ultra light lures

[DanielB]

I have an ultralight fishing pole with a Shimano Sienna 1000 FE reel with 10 pound test power pro on it.

I was trying to cast a really light joes fly, but when I try to cast it my pole tip barely bends and I can only cast it about 20ft with absolutely no accuracy I am guessing the joes fly is around 1/32 of an oz. 

Any help will be appreciated thanks.

[Arcs&sparks]

I recall joes flies recommending a split shot weight if your rod won’t cast them.  1/32oz is extremely light

[J Francho]

There's UL rods, and then there's UL rods.  Not all are equal.  I would add a casting bubble or as A&S said, a small bit of split shot.  Just depends where you want the lure to run.  Bubble for high in the column, split shot for lower.

[DanielB]

Are there any ultralight rods you would recommend for fishing really light lures?

[J Francho]

I had an old Team Daiwa that could whip 1/100 oz. jigs about 30'.  You're looking for a slower, whippy style rod.  You'd probably be best off trying them out in person.

[DanielB]

What i am looking for is a sensitive moderate to fast action graphite pole that can through tiny lures for crappie, trout, and an occasional smallmouth.

[WRB]

Fly rod, cast the line and the light fly goes along for the ride.

Clear casting bobble you fill partially with water and cast it as far as you want.

Tom

[DanielB]

I'm looking for a spinning rod not a fly rod.

right now i'm leaning towards a st croix 6ft 9 panfish rod.

 

[J Francho]

43 minutes ago, DanielB said:

I'm looking for a spinning rod not a fly rod.

Quite a few UL guys have spinning rods custom made out of fly rod blanks.

[Arcs&sparks]

3 hours ago, J Francho said:

You're looking for a slower, whippy style rod.  You'd probably be best off trying them out in person.

Definitely this^  I’ve handled some super noodley st croixs at cabelas.  Not sure which models they were though.  I don’t own one because it doesn’t fit my fishing style.  My current ultralights are very crisp and probably wouldn’t throw a weightless Joes if I tried(the small ones,  they come in different sizes) They are not very aerodynamic

 

2lb or 4lbmono might work better for you than 10lb braid on your current setup,  braid can dig into itself and “stick” alittle bit,  limiting your casting with light lures

[DanielB]

Ok good to know, if anyone knows a better option than a st croix pls let me know.

[scaleface]

2 hours ago, J Francho said:

Quite a few UL guys have spinning rods custom made out of fly rod blanks.

An older gentleman I know uses vintage Johnson spincast reels with the spool  reversed and fished upside down on fly rods . I had a couple of those reels and gave them to him .

[WRB]

4 hours ago, DanielB said:

I'm looking for a spinning rod not a fly rod.

right now i'm leaning towards a st croix 6ft 9 panfish rod.

 

PFS69ULF, 2-6 lb line, 1/32-3/16 oz lures, fast action Ultralight shoukd work.

You might want to upgrade the reel to ultralight size.

Tom

[DanielB]

Know any good ultralight spinning reels?

[Brad in Texas]

4 hours ago, DanielB said:

I'm looking for a spinning rod not a fly rod.

right now i'm leaning towards a st croix 6ft 9 panfish rod.

 

I have that rod, the St Croix UL in the 6'9" and it is an excellent choice for longer casts. Too, if you hook into a bass, if you use proper spinning gear techniques, it'll handle them easily. 

 

Let me go find a particular set of vids that I'd highly recommend you, others, watch showing how to use spinning gear to toss light stuff. One thing he does is modify (remove the hooks, etc.) from one of the ultralight cranbaits, run his line through it and use it as sort of a float that adds some weight to your cast. He even recommends a color.  Cool Stuff. I'll see if I can find it for you.

 

Brad

[davecon]

I use a St. Croix 6”8’ light Premier spinning rod, 1000 Shimano CI14 reel and 5 lb. Power Pro. Had to order both the rod and the line as neither is normally stocked locally. I’m casting some really small lures that imitate glass minnows for snook. Works real well but I don’t think the lures are as small as 1/32 oz.

 

This set up is a lot of fun. Catching good sized fish with this light of an outfit will test your skills.

 

 

[Brad in Texas]

Here you go.  Really worth a watch for any ultra-light anglers, fly guys.

 

Brad

 

Fly Fishing with Spinning Rod

[WRB]

41 minutes ago, DanielB said:

Know any good ultralight spinning reels?

Shimano 500 size is smaller then 1000 size, Shimano Sadona and NASCI 500 has good reviews, lightweight, smaller shallower spool is appropriate for ultralight use.

[jbrew73]

6 hours ago, Arcs&sparks said:

Definitely this^  I’ve handled some super noodley st croixs at cabelas.  Not sure which models they were though.  I don’t own one because it doesn’t fit my fishing style.  My current ultralights are very crisp and probably wouldn’t throw a weightless Joes if I tried(the small ones,  they come in different sizes) They are not very aerodynamic

 

2lb or 4lbmono might work better for you than 10lb braid on your current setup,  braid can dig into itself and “stick” alittle bit,  limiting your casting with light lures

This^

In my experience 4lb mono will out cast 10lb braid.

[DropShotHotShot]

I have a Daiwa 7'6" mml/CD, chucks light hair jigs far

[Moto]

Whatever you do, dont use a baitcaster!

[Arcs&sparks]

3 hours ago, Brad in Texas said:

Here you go.  Really worth a watch for any ultra-light anglers, fly guys.

 

Brad

 

Fly Fishing with Spinning Rod

That’s a pretty good watch.  I don’t study other states fishing regulations but that would be illegal in Maine, As with A-rigs.  I hear we have some of the most strict laws in the country. The OP hasn’t given his location, but just a suggestion to him or anyone else,  learn your law book.  

[tkunk]

For 1/16-3/32 oz hair jigs, I use a 7' Daiwa ML/XF rod rated for 1/64-1/4 oz lures and a 2000-sized spinning reel with 5 lb braid. I'll bet I can cast farther than 100 feet with the wind. Against the wind, I probably don't get more than 30 feet. Light braid makes a big difference.

 

A 1000-sized reel is limiting your casting distance. For spinning reels, bigger spools are always better for distance (this is definitely not true for baitcasters). You can easily go up to 2000-sized reel without hurting the balance of your combo. For hair jigs, I'd fish a 5000-sized reel if it didn't cause an imbalance. 

[WRB]

US reel was designed with large diameter spools to reduce line twist based on fewer coils with less set. Braid doesn't take a set or coil and 4 lb test mono has little memory or friction.

Daiwa SS 1500 spinning reel with a longer tapered spool is one the longest casting spinning reels on the market but heavy in today's 6 oz reels this size.

The Shimano 500 size incorporates a shallow narrow spool designed for light small diameter line for ultralight spinning.

Tom

[Bluebasser86]

I use a 6' UL Avid with a 750 Sedona and 3.5lb DAM Techtan line. I can cast a 1/32oz bait further than I can effectively set a hook. Regularly cast a 1/80th jighead with a piece of a 2" grub for bluegills and sunfish. It will cast it for plenty of distance and with accuracy. The right combination of rod/reel/and line is huge with UL fishing.