Pflueger President XT 30 line slipping

[itsabiggen240]

I have 14lb braid on it and as I reel in some of the line slips off and goes off the spool and starts to wrap around the reel body. I figured I had too much line on so I took some off. It helped but it still does it here and there. 

 

Any advice or different line recommendations?

[Largemouth21]

9 hours ago, itsabiggen240 said:

I have 14lb braid on it and as I reel in some of the line slips off and goes off the spool and starts to wrap around the reel body. I figured I had too much line on so I took some off. It helped but it still does it here and there. 

 

Any advice or different line recommendations?

You’re going to want to use mono backing to prevent slipping

[Subaqua Adinterim]

14 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

You’re going to want to use mono backing to prevent slipping

I don't think he was referring to the line slipping on the spool. 

I believe that OP was referring to line slipping underneath the spool on spinning reel.  

This has happened to me with both low # test braid line and mono line,  so it's not just the braid.  Not sure how full your spool is, but over filling could be contributing to your problem.  Most likely, if you are spooled up with the proper amount of line; you have too much slack in your line between the first line guide above the bail when you start reeling in after casting.  Steps to avoid this - manually flip the bail over after casting and grab the line (pull up and hold it next to the rod shaft as you begin to reel) above the bail to take slack out of line as you start reeling.

This should help to cure what's happening.   This problem usually happens to me when it's extremely windy - usually when the wind is gusting toward me and/or I'm not paying attention.  

I know it's bad when the line gets wrapped around the spindle under the spool, so I hope the above helps you avoid this. Good luck. 

[SJex]

I had the same problem. I was using Sufix 832 10lb and spent a half a day messing with it. I changed my line to Power Pro 20lb and have had very few issues since.

[Subaqua Adinterim]

Changing to heavier # test line may help you, but it will not completely cure the problem; and sometimes there are advantages to fishing with lighter line.  So why not fix the cause.

There are many helpful videos out there that will help you visualize how to prevent the problem.  A short one that I have seen on the Bass Fishing Tactics Podcast by Kevin Scarselli dated 4/6/10 - Preventing Twists on Spinning Reels is about 1.5 minutes long and is the best I have seen on taking the slack out of the line and preventing a situation where it can get under your spool.

The video by Glenn on this site about removing twists on spinning gear is also good, however, the one I recommended from the podcast will provide additional help with this problem. 

[itsabiggen240]

2 hours ago, RichPenNY said:

Changing to heavier # test line may help you, but it will not completely cure the problem; and sometimes there are advantages to fishing with lighter line.  So why not fix the cause.

There are many helpful videos out there that will help you visualize how to prevent the problem.  A short one that I have seen on the Bass Fishing Tactics Podcast by Kevin Scarselli dated 4/6/10 - Preventing Twists on Spinning Reels is about 1.5 minutes long and is the best I have seen on taking the slack out of the line and preventing a situation where it can get under your spool.

The video by Glenn on this site about removing twists on spinning gear is also good, however, the one I recommended from the podcast will provide additional help with this problem. 

I will check it out, thanks.

[Boomstick]

I have a Pflueger President 35 and for whatever reason, if you do not leave a full 1/8" off of the spool when spooling it, it does lose a lot of line loops.

 

Once it got so bad that the line got stuck in the bottom of the spool, I had to take the spool off and lost a couple washers, so when I respooled it, I used 8lb mono because it's what I had available, left a solid 1/8" off and haven't had a problem since.

 

Also as others have said, be sure you are spooling it up correctly. There is a video from Glenn right here on bassresource.com on how to spool a spinning reel that I would recommend watching if you aren't 100% sure.

[FishTank]

30 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I have a Pflueger President 35 and for whatever reason, if you do not leave a full 1/8" off of the spool when spooling it, it does lose a lot of line loops.

 

Once it got so bad that the line got stuck in the bottom of the spool, I had to take the spool off and lost a couple washers, so when I respooled it, I used 8lb mono because it's what I had available, left a solid 1/8" off and haven't had a problem since.

 

Also as others have said, be sure you are spooling it up correctly. There is a video from Glenn right here on bassresource.com on how to spool a spinning reel that I would recommend watching if you aren't 100% sure.

 

I had the same problem with mine after about a month of use, except I tried 2 different types of braid and 2 different types of mono.  I spooled it once and then had the guys at DSG do it three different times, all with the same result.  I ended up returning it and exchanging it for something else.  It was a shame because it was a nice reel, smooth and just felt good.  It seemed like a good reel at a reasonable price point. 

[itsabiggen240]

I'm pretty disappointed to see that there are quite a few others who share the same experience.

 

I went on the Pflueger website and sent a message. Let's see what they come back with.

[Boomstick]

16 hours ago, FishTank said:

 

I had the same problem with mine after about a month of use, except I tried 2 different types of braid and 2 different types of mono.  I spooled it once and then had the guys at DSG do it three different times, all with the same result.  I ended up returning it and exchanging it for something else.  It was a shame because it was a nice reel, smooth and just felt good.  It seemed like a good reel at a reasonable price point. 

That's too bad. I don't know if the diameter of the spool is smaller on the 30 than the 35, but my Daiwa BG, size 2000 has roughly the same size spool diameter as my President, but holds much less line. The larger diameter spool always helps with these issues, as does the bail's design.

[Bluebasser86]

I have 4 Supreme XT's and haven't ever experienced this problem. 14lb braid sounds like maybe Fireline or other fused line since braids don't typically come in 14lb test. If that's the case, those lines can be a little wiry and want to jump off the spool in heavier pound test. 

[MickD]

On 7/2/2018 at 8:30 PM, Largemouth21 said:

You’re going to want to use mono backing to prevent slipping

What he is experiencing is not the line slipping relative to the spool due to braid's low coefficient of friction; he is experiencing loops of line during retrieve which are not going onto the spool, but are wrapping around the body of the reel.

1 hour ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I have 4 Supreme XT's and haven't ever experienced this problem. 14lb braid sounds like maybe Fireline or other fused line since braids don't typically come in 14lb test. If that's the case, those lines can be a little wiry and want to jump off the spool in heavier pound test. 

Especially with retrieves that put little tension on the line as it's being retrieved.  The only thing I can think of for retrieves like this is a limper line than the current line.  

[LCG]

I have two of these reels and do not have this issue. You will have to keep in mind that light braid, 10 lb in my case, is a thin line and you need to spool it on tight.

 

Also be sure to stop the line with your finger as the lure hits the water, helps keep the slack line down.

 

Always close the bail by hand to avoid line twist.

 

And always leave some room at the edge of the spool, 1/8" seems about right. 

 

I use braid on all my reels and following these techniques works well for me. 

[itsabiggen240]

Great input everyone, thank you.

Pflueger emailed me back and they think I am putting on too much line. I'm going to try a 10 lb braid instead and when I put it on I'll be sure it goes on tight. I'll also leave the 1/8" space. This should do it.