Super User Sam Posted June 30, 2018 Super User Posted June 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Arcs&sparks said: You have to? Come on now, you know that is not always the case. Right, but the writer was seeking advice on how to improve his bite ratio and the use of the specific color and asked how come the bass like his cinnamon Senko and do not hit other colored Senkos thrown by his buddy. So in defense of my statement, I offer the following as stated in Keith’s Jones’ book, Knowing Bass. Take it or leave it. But at least read the data and come to your own conclusions. Water is much denser than air and thus it scatters much more of the light traveling through it. A much smaller portion of the light the bass see reaches them in a direct line. This means the bass are presented with a weakened image of what they see. The bass must see through a haze and this limits their distance and image they can see. Dr. Don McCoy of the University of Kentucky conducted studies on bass’ vision and he proved that bass can see colors between red and blue, but not equally across the board. The fish quickly learned the colors between red and green of the spectrum but struggled to differentiate shades of blue. So the bass can see well from red to green but weak in the blue and violets. The highest color discrimination is around yellow-green and yellow-orange. To continue, Frank Brown at the University of Illinois noted that bass have good color vision in the areas of red and green. Intense yellows could be noted but pale yellow and pinks appeared to be interpreted as light and the bass often confused dark shades of blue and purple with heavy shades of gray and black Since objects underwater appear brighter or darker in contrast to their surroundings, differences in brightness degrade as you go lower into the water column. So the beautiful Bluebasser blue jig is no longer a beautiful blue when it hits bottom, depending on the depth, water clarity, and light conditions. Add to this the fact that motion signals life to a bass and the possibility of food. If an object is motionless it can be classified as non-living and ignored. And the bass get accustomed to specific moving objects that they can catch and eat even though their vision in the water is blurred. Motion grabs the bass’ attention and almost everything else is ignored. And we know bass are sight hunters, always looking for something to eat or attack. This means bass evaluate lure shapes according to how well they fit visual criteria without considering whether the shape is natural or not. But bass do get accustomed to certain shapes that are considered food and that is why our baits take the shape (or close to the shape) of what the bass can see as a moving target. In Dr. Jones’ book he lists the strike response to color that he found in his studies for Berkley (Pure Fishing today) from high to low and here is what the published: Silver/Black Back Dark Violet Black Green White Yellow Light Blue Orange Red Don’t see cinnamon on the list. But where TCBass fishes the bass like this color. No idea why but they do and it works. So you throw what you know works and you have confidence. Wish I could find the secret color on the waters I fish so I don’t have to bring 500 pounds of plastics on the boat with me. But I digress. Color is a major factor where bass are known to feed heavily on a preferred prey such as threadfin shad or crawfish. So we must match the prey color as closely as possible to what they eat. And remember, in very muddy waters, reds, oranges, and yellows are about the only colors of light available and it is pointless to fret over the exact shade of a blue lure when all the blue light is gone. Now, with all this input I still use blue and white on the Potomac, firetiger and green pumpkin on the Historic James River, blue on the Chickahominy River, 194 and 297 Senkos all over the place, Junebug all over the place and white and some other colors I have confidence. So using cinnamon is a great color if you have confidence in it. But if you use it and don’t get any bites then you are using a wrong color for the forage and water/light conditions. Up there in Minnesota the bass like cinnamon. Down here in Virginia you will not find a lot of guys throwing anything cinnamon on a regular basis, if at all. So no one is right and no one is wrong. The beautiful blue jig Bluebasser throws would be dynamite on the Potomac or Chickahominy Rivers due to the influx of crabs and the amount of bluegills the bass are used seeing as blue colored targets. But throw that beautiful blue jig on Lake Anna or Lake Chesdin in Virginia and you could be wasting your time. Keep chucking that cinnamon Senko and let us know when you catch your personal best!!!! Good luck and tight lines. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 30, 2018 Super User Posted June 30, 2018 I am big fan of Zoom's moccasin blue color myself. Quote
Super User Sam Posted June 30, 2018 Super User Posted June 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, flyfisher said: I am big fan of Zoom's moccasin blue color myself. Fly...keep it a secret. Moccasin Blue is a killer on the Chickahominy River in Virginia. I have loads of the finesse, curly tails, dead ringers, and trick worms. The blue in them must mimic the bluegills and crabs that are in the river. The bass, crappie and crabs on the bottom love them. I had a friend who is now deceased who would throw only one color on the Chick: Moccasin Blue. He was a guide and an old pro and he said you can throw any color you want on the Chick just as long as it is Moccasin Blue. I am with you 100% on this one. Stay cool this week. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted June 30, 2018 Posted June 30, 2018 Use a color they can see in the water conditions you are fishin and they will eat it. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted June 30, 2018 Super User Posted June 30, 2018 23 hours ago, Sam said: The replies are truthful and some are funny but the fact is that you have to "match the forage" in the body of water you are fishing,. For example, a white colored bait to mimic shad colored prey works great in the Potomac River. So your cinnamon colored bait has to resemble a color the bass are familiar with and equate to something to eat, like a crawfish or an earthworm. For a listing of some of the colors you can consider for plastics check out this link and you can note all of the colors offered which will put you in a mental institution. But the Bait Monkey will love you! Good luck and keep chucking that cinnamon Senko. http://virginiaguidebaitco.com/ Thanks for posting this link. I have been looking for black swamp crawlers for a long time. Allen 1 Quote
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