Baitcaster: how to keep lure from going so high

[islandbass]

8 hours ago, TOXIC said:

You want my rant?  

 

Why this obsession to throw finesse baits on a baitcaster?  Can you do it.....yes, but is there a better tool for the job?  I say there is....a spinning rod/reel.  It's what it is designed for.  The stigma of throwing a spinning setup has long been discredited.  If you take your cues from the pro's how many do you see throwing dropshots, ned rigs, senkos, etc., on baitcasters?  Not very many and only if they have upsized their weights and taken it out of the finesse category.  I love my spinning rods and have an equal number of spinning and casting on my deck every time I go out.  

 

Rant over, carry on.  

Pride, my friend. It's pride. After all, no "self-respectin'" bass angler such as myself (yes, improper use of grammar intended and I am not the one speakin') would ever use a spinning rig," lol.

So while they're busy, cursin' and sreamin' out loud about the bird's nest made on account of using a light weight lure casting into a strong headwind, I'm catchin' fish on my shameful spinning rig, achieving a near vertical drop of my bait with every cast.

[Steve1357]

14 hours ago, islandbass said:

AIf your lure is unable to make the rod flex,  the angler is forced to make adjustments to his or her casting mechanics to compensate. That is not a good place to be. 

 

So unless we want to continue with adjusted mechanics which I have had to do on occasion, the easiest solution is to find the right rod to toss your lure. 

 

Yeah, it kind of sucks but at least your bait monkey will be happy. 

 

If anyone fishes with a casting fast at most action and hopefully 2 piece (not a show stopper), spill the beans. 

 

Agreed.

 

I got a few cheap Academy rods that I use in the summer throwing itty bitty stuff....all hell breaks loose when you get a hawg lol

 

[Further North]

9 hours ago, TOXIC said:

You want my rant?  

 

Why this obsession to throw finesse baits on a baitcaster?  Can you do it.....yes, but is there a better tool for the job?  I say there is....a spinning rod/reel.  It's what it is designed for.  The stigma of throwing a spinning setup has long been discredited.  If you take your cues from the pro's how many do you see throwing dropshots, ned rigs, senkos, etc., on baitcasters?  Not very many and only if they have upsized their weights and taken it out of the finesse category.  I love my spinning rods and have an equal number of spinning and casting on my deck every time I go out.  

 

Rant over, carry on.  

My BFS rig throws Senkos better than my spinning rig...it's not even close...leaving my spinning rig for Ned Rigs, small jigs, etc...

[grub_man]

BF,

 

Your egg beater is wrong-handed! Unless it's for me ;-).  I put my spinning handles on the right side because I'm a lefty and learned to crank with my right hand first and it naturally made sense to do the same with my egg beaters.

 

Those Wishing for Less Stiff Casting Rods,

 

If you can't find the casting rod you need on the shelf, BUILD it.  Casting finesse lures on casting gear is why I started building rods.  My first two builds spend more time in my hand than any other rods.  However, once I learned how to make a spinning handle with proper ergonomics to stop the pain shooting up my forearm, I now spend more time with a spinning rod in hand than ever before.

 

When it comes to rods, once you get to the $100ish range, you start getting into true standard modulus graphite blanks with little to no glass involved.  Those blanks do tend to feel stiffer than they actually are.  As you go up from there and get into the intermediate and high modulus stuff, the blanks get more responsive and they react and respond quicker and feel less stiff during casting and buttery smooth with the right lures.

 

Blanks designed with casting rods in mind are generally designed with more fudge factor built in.  Casting rods are generally expected by manufacturers to take more abuse in the way they are used, especially by us self respectin' bass fishermen.  Additionally, they experience more torsional forces during the shock loading of hook sets and during the fight.  Abuse to the fibers that provide hoop strength which are fewer in number than longitudinal fibers will result in a higher failure rate among casting rods.  So, they are designed with more material and inherently more stiff in general.  However, if you treat your stuff with at least a little respect, a great casting rod can be built on blanks designed for spinning applications.

[EGbassing]

Try to keep your rod tip near the water during the cast, and thumb the spool as the bait is about to hit the water. I practiced that for a while today, and even with 1/2 oz. jig, I was making some casts with almost no splash. Hope this helps.

[Further North]

Short answer: earlier release point, and upgrade to a rod appropriate to the weights you are trying to throw as soon as you can.

[islandbass]

On 6/28/2018 at 4:13 PM, BaitFinesse said:

 

Pride, my friend. It's pride. After all, no "self-respectin'" cook such as myself (yes, improper use of grammar intended and I am not the one speakin') would ever use a wisk," lol.  So while they're busy, cursin' and sreamin' out loud about their arms gettin tired on account of using a wisk on a strong yoke, I'm whippin' eggs on my shameful egg beater, achieving a near perfect blend with every crank.

 

If I were drinking coffee, I would have spit it out laughing so hard. Love the parallel.