Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Now i use a snap swivel so i can change my lures fast instead of tying things on and such and it's probably a bass fishing sin to use it but it's how i have fished since i was a kid. I have always "texas rigged" my worms but possibly with the swivel i can't texas rig a worm the right way like i see all these other bass fisherman do it on youtube or elsewhere. Because i always have this weird bend in the worm like around the front. Is there a rig that i can rig a worm and keep the swivel ? or am i just basically going to have to buy another rod and just use it as like a tie on rod ? Quote
NittyGrittyBoy Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Why do you need to change your lures out so fast? Most can tie a Palomar knot in under 20secs. 10 minutes ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: Now i use a snap swivel so i can change my lures fast instead of tying things on and such Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 25, 2018 Author Posted June 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: Why do you need to change your lures out so fast? Most can tie a Palomar knot in under 20secs. don't know what that is ? i was only ever taught a fishermans knot ? Quote
Super User Mobasser Posted June 25, 2018 Super User Posted June 25, 2018 Ralph, tie directly to the hook with no swivel. Palomer or improved cinch knot. Rig plastic worms as straight as possible. 1 Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 25, 2018 Author Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Mobasser said: Ralph, tie directly to the hook with no swivel. Palomer or improved cinch knot. Rig plastic worms as straight as possible. Ok Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted June 25, 2018 Super User Posted June 25, 2018 Learn how to tie the Pitzen knot. It is a very good knot and I can tie it in the winter in about 12 seconds with gloves on. Quote
NittyGrittyBoy Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Google images Palomar knot, basically one of the strongest and simplest knots out there! Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 11 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: Google images Palomar knot, basically one of the strongest and simplest knots out there! is it stronger than the fishermans knot ? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 26, 2018 Super User Posted June 26, 2018 If a "fisherman's knot" means a cinch knot, then yes. 1 1 Quote
thinkingredneck Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Not trying to be a "Richard", but you need to re-tie often, even if not changing your lure, ànd even if using a snàp. If your line gets abaided ir nicked you could break off a fish. This is especially true if fishing wood, rock, heavy vegetation, and after each fish. I had a nice fish break off on what appeared to be abraided line and now I am diligent about this. The Palomar knot is good, as stated, but the improved clinch or Uni knot work well, also. I use the uni knot on baits with treble hooks because the Palomar gets hung. You can also leave a small loop with the Uni to give the cranks more freedom. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted June 26, 2018 Super User Posted June 26, 2018 Learn the Palomar knot and retie often . I use the trilene knot for Texas Rigs but the Palomar is slightly easier to tie . Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, scaleface said: Learn the Palomar knot and retie often . I use the trilene knot for Texas Rigs but the Palomar is slightly easier to tie . So snip the line then retie often? 2 hours ago, thinkingredneck said: Not trying to be a "Richard", but you need to re-tie often, even if not changing your lure, ànd even if using a snàp. If your line gets abaided ir nicked you could break off a fish. This is especially true if fishing wood, rock, heavy vegetation, and after each fish. I had a nice fish break off on what appeared to be abraided line and now I am diligent about this. The Palomar knot is good, as stated, but the improved clinch or Uni knot work well, also. I use the uni knot on baits with treble hooks because the Palomar gets hung. You can also leave a small loop with the Uni to give the cranks more freedom. No worries i want to learn to become a better fisherman and a more informed fisherman i mean im not trying to become the next bass tourny master or anything just want to have a nice time out on the lake and pond and catch a lot of fish lol 3 hours ago, J Francho said: If a "fisherman's knot" means a cinch knot, then yes. The knot where you spin it 10 times and then put the end through the bottom open loop area and then pull it straight down then you Burn the end of your line so it doesn't untie itself Quote
Super User scaleface Posted June 26, 2018 Super User Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: So snip the line then retie often? Yes . The palomar is so simple to tie that there is no reason not to . Line is only as strong as its weakest point , so check it often and retie when you notice any damage . Just the basses sandpaper like teeth will weaken the line . The Palomar is a 100 percent knot when tied correctly .So is the Trilene . 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 26, 2018 Super User Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: The knot where you spin it 10 times and then put the end through the bottom open loop area and then pull it straight down then you Burn the end of your line so it doesn't untie itself I don't know what that knot is, but I recommend you learn a Palomar or Uni knot, and don't burn anything. 1 Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 5 hours ago, J Francho said: I don't know what that knot is, but I recommend you learn a Palomar or Uni knot, and don't burn anything. ok i won't Sorry if like i disgraced the hobby or anything by being such a "novice" just kind of going with what my father taught me about fishing and rolling with it until eventually i found this place which is such a great forum ! 2 Quote
Mbirdsley Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I only use snaps on cranks. I only use ball bearing swivels on spoons. If I’m being lazy( it happens) I will use a ball bearing swivel on the bigger three hook rapalas, bomber Long A’s and other similar longer style baits if I was using a spoon before hand. The bass and pike do not really mind a ball bearing swivel on these types of lures as long as your not in ultra clear water. If your using snap swivels at least get eagle claw ones. They are not spro’s but, for the money good. Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, Mbirdsley said: I only use snaps on cranks. I only use ball bearing swivels on spoons. If I’m being lazy( it happens) I will use a ball bearing swivel on the bigger three hook rapalas, bomber Long A’s and other similar longer style baits if I was using a spoon before hand. The bass and pike do not really mind a ball bearing swivel on these types of lures as long as your not in ultra clear water. If your using snap swivels at least get eagle claw ones. They are not spro’s but, for the money good. i had an eagle claw swivel snap in two when i had a good sized pickerel on the line ? it sucked got him all the way to shore and SNAP off he swam with everything still in i literally screamed so loud at like 6 AM i was so upset i don't like killing fish i always want a nice healthy release Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: ok i won't Sorry if like i disgraced the hobby or anything by being such a "novice" just kind of going with what my father taught me about fishing and rolling with it until eventually i found this place which is such a great forum ! No disgrace in asking. We're all here to help! The whole point of the site is to get novices past the learning curve. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: The knot where you spin it 10 times and then put the end through the bottom open loop area and then pull it straight down then you Burn the end of your line so it doesn't untie itself I've heard many different knots referred to as the fisherman's knot. In this case, I believe you're referring to the cinch knot. I would recommend learning the palomar or the uni knot, I generally prefer the uni and give it 5-7 turns because it works with all lines where the palomar doesn't work well with fluorocarbon, although I'll often use it with braid because it cinches down very tightly on braided line, although I never have issues losing baits with the uni on braid either. This video should help you out: Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Boomstick said: I've heard many different knots referred to as the fisherman's knot. In this case, I believe you're referring to the cinch knot. I would recommend learning the palomar or the uni knot, I generally prefer the uni and give it 5-7 turns because it works with all lines where the palomar doesn't work well with fluorocarbon, although I'll often use it with braid because it cinches down very tightly on braided line, although I never have issues losing baits with the uni on braid either. This video should help you out: I use this line called Trilene Transoptic idk if it's flourocarbon or what but i do like it i will try this knot this weekend Is there any like ... universal hook that i can use with most worms no matter the size of the worm? like a 4/0 or 3/0 EWG or offset ? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: Is there any like ... universal hook that i can use with most worms no matter the size of the worm? like a 4/0 or 3/0 EWG or offset ? Generally, keeping a supply of 3/0, 4/0, and 5/0 will cover most sizes of plastics. AT least, those are the ones I buy most frequently. Quote
MrFrost Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 18 hours ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said: ok i won't Sorry if like i disgraced the hobby or anything by being such a "novice" Nonsense! Learning some strong knots would probably help make it more likely that you tie on a different lure when the bite is slow on what you're throwing. Don't ever let yourself feel like just because it seems common practice to do one thing or the other, that it's a must. Quote
Ralph Nicholas Vito Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 48 minutes ago, J Francho said: Generally, keeping a supply of 3/0, 4/0, and 5/0 will cover most sizes of plastics. AT least, those are the ones I buy most frequently. i literally went to dicks like a month ago and just grabbed a bunch of hooks that i thought i have either used before OR have seen in my dads tackle box. And also some worms / baits tell you what hook is best to use which is nice but sometimes i can't find them or i can't quite put the hook in the right way possibly but i'm definitely going to look at 3/0-5/0 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 Another rule: use a hook that's twice as wide as the bait. It always takes some practice rigging them on the hook. I still screw up sometimes, and I've been fishing for 40+ years. Take a look through our how to video collection. There's a bunch in there about rigging plastics, and hook selection. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/How-To-Fishing-Videos 2 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 On June 25, 2018 at 12:14 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said: Why do you need to change your lures out so fast? Most can tie a Palomar knot in under 20secs. I'll see your 20 second Palomar, and raise you a 10 second uni. Quote
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