freelancer27 Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Hi all, I just ordered a bunch of frogs from TW and I am not able to walk any of them. Frogs I bought and tried: * River2Sea Bully Wa 2 Frog (size 65) * Spro Dean Rojas Bronzeye Shad (size 65) * Snag Proof Bobby's Perfect Frog 1/2oz On the other hand I can walk the Megabass Pony Gabot Frog like it is nothing. Unfortunately this frog is expensive and a bit more fragile than what I would accept for the money. So, I am wondering if anybody has recommedations on a similar frog to the Megabass or maybe some recommendations on how to walk the other frogs. Thanks guys! Quote
Super User Angry John Posted June 21, 2018 Super User Posted June 21, 2018 The popping frogs are the easiest to walk. Start with a spro or WA popper then move to the nonpopping. Quote
CroakHunter Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Do you known how to walk other baits? Like spooks? If so usually smaller twitches, but still giving the frog plenty of slack line is the key. If you don't know how to walk other styles of baits then try with something bigger like a 5 inch spook or similar walking bait. Then work yourself down to frogs. 4 Quote
Rpratt Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 It helped for me to cut one side of the "legs" shorter then the other. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 21, 2018 Super User Posted June 21, 2018 Cut the legs shorter and that will help. I usually cut them to the length of the frog body and then trim as needed. I can also walk non popping versions better myself. Also slow down and watch the bait and what you are doing so you can replicate the motion. Other than that, just practice....I can walk pretty much every frog i have thrown once i establish the force needed and cadence for each frog. Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 8 hours ago, CroakHunter said: Do you known how to walk other baits? Like spooks? If so usually smaller twitches, but still giving the frog plenty of slack line is the key. If you don't know how to walk other styles of baits then try with something bigger like a 5 inch spook or similar walking bait. Then work yourself down to frogs. Yup, been doing it for years! 1 hour ago, Rpratt said: It helped for me to cut one side of the "legs" shorter then the other. Tried that, did not help. 28 minutes ago, flyfisher said: Cut the legs shorter and that will help. I usually cut them to the length of the frog body and then trim as needed. I can also walk non popping versions better myself. Also slow down and watch the bait and what you are doing so you can replicate the motion. Other than that, just practice....I can walk pretty much every frog i have thrown once i establish the force needed and cadence for each frog. Tried this as well, little to no success. Just bit the bullet and ordered more of the Megabass. With this frog I can walk it almost on the same spot with ease. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 21, 2018 Super User Posted June 21, 2018 Little success means there is some there so you need to build off that. Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, flyfisher said: Little success means there is some there so you need to build off that. You are a dad, aren't you 1 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 21, 2018 Super User Posted June 21, 2018 What's your frog setup? Rod/reel/line? Are you frogging in grass? Pads? Open water? Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, TOXIC said: What's your frog setup? Rod/reel/line? Are you frogging in grass? Pads? Open water? Okuma Frogging rod 7'3 Heavy - Fast. Reel is a Zillion HD with 50# Sufix. Open water. Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 21, 2018 Super User Posted June 21, 2018 Good setup. I have nothing...I use the SPRO 65 Bronze eye both popper and normal and don't have a problem. Sometimes I trim the legs, sometimes not. Normally I leave the legs long on the poppers since you want them to "buck" and spit water instead of side to side action. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Stiff rod and no stretch line can make it more difficult to walk a bait. Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Comfortably Numb said: Stiff rod and no stretch line can make it more difficult to walk a bait. Yeah, I thought so too. Tried then with a 7 foot medium-heavy rod and 12 pound mono. Same result... Quote
papajoe222 Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 My response is in the form of a question: If you’re fishing open water, why are you using a frog? Seriously, you get a much better hook up ratio using a Spook or a Sammy, they’re easier to walk and are better, IMO, at calling up fish than a frog. This time of year I have them both tied on. i choose my baits to fit the situation and don’t try to make a bait work in a situation where a different bait is better suited. 1 Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Posted June 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, papajoe222 said: My response is in the form of a question: If you’re fishing open water, why are you using a frog? Seriously, you get a much better hook up ratio using a Spook or a Sammy, they’re easier to walk and are better, IMO, at calling up fish than a frog. This time of year I have them both tied on. i choose my baits to fit the situation and don’t try to make a bait work in a situation where a different bait is better suited. I was just doing the testing in open water to get the optimal conditions for the testing 1 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 22, 2018 Super User Posted June 22, 2018 One more question...do you hold your rod tip up or down? I'm just trying to figure out why one frog walks on your setup but another doesn't. There's not that much difference in the frogs. Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Posted June 22, 2018 3 hours ago, TOXIC said: One more question...do you hold your rod tip up or down? I'm just trying to figure out why one frog walks on your setup but another doesn't. There's not that much difference in the frogs. Down. It is weird for me too, since I usually know how to move my lures... The Megabass I have to work NOT to make it walk. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted June 22, 2018 Super User Posted June 22, 2018 User error. Spro Bronzeye and the snagproof are some of the easiest frogs to walk. Short fast twitch /w minimal slack. Practice. 1 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 23, 2018 Super User Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 12:08 PM, freelancer27 said: You are a dad, aren't you I am a dad, a teacher and a coach. But I would have said the exact same thing before i was any of those....probably because i never gave up on anything worth working for in my life. 1 Quote
J.Vincent Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 Try the Savage Gear Lily Frog, 3/4 oz size ; they are very good and affordable walking Frogs. Savage Gear designed them with a V shaped Belly which allows the bait to keel from side to side incredibly well. I fish these Frogs best on a MH Veritas which is half way between a true MH and a H. The hook up percentage is very good. Quote
freelancer27 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Posted June 23, 2018 Update: went out yesterday again and brought a variety of frogs again. I think I am slowly figuring it out. THe key: super, super light twitches. With the megabass you can almost rip it while with the other you have to be very sublte, which is actually more exhausting on the arm and wrist, since you have to move the gear a more precise way. Thanks all! 1 Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 I have a few Snag Proof Ish’s Phat Frogs and I can’t walk them consistently. Live target frogs are easy for me to walk. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted June 25, 2018 Super User Posted June 25, 2018 Its much easier to use a short rod for walking baits than long ones . I use old pistol grip 5'6" or 6 " rods . Quote
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